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Todays Topics:

Subject: Mobile 1??
Subject: Re: what octane gas to use?
Subject: Re: Mobile 1??
Subject: RE: headlight problem
Subject: Re: Mobile 1??
Subject: Web page and oil FAQ
Subject: Re: what octane gas to use?
Subject: gearing
Subject: Hawk GT mailing list.
Subject: RC31 potentially for sale...
Subject: RE: Paint...
Subject: Re:  RC31 potentially for sale...
Subject: While we're on the topic
Subject: Ooooh, RC31 cometh.
Subject: Hawk FS Ohio area
Subject: WHoever is at the user@gypsy.sj.u . . .
Subject: Intake mods
Subject: Re: Tanks, again.
Subject: Re: Tanks, again.
Subject: Jet kits?
Subject: Re: gearing
Subject: Doc Wong's clinic June 4
Subject: Re: hawk speedo light
Subject: Re: While we're on the topic
Subject: Re: gearing
Subject: Re: Oil question
Subject: Re: gearing
Subject: Re: While we're on the topic
Subject: Re: Jet kits?
Subject: Re: While we're on the topic
Subject: Re: hawk speedo light
Subject: Re: While we're on the topic
Subject: Re: F2 front wheel
Subject: Re: Doc Wong's clinic June 4
Subject: Re: While we're on the topic
Subject: Re: While we're on the topic
Subject: Re: Doc Wong's clinic June 4
Subject: Re: F2 front wheel
Subject: Re: Jet kits?
Subject: Tires
Subject: Re: Doc Wong's clinic June 4
Subject: Chain
Subject: Re: F2 front wheel
Subject: Re: Doc Wong's clinic June 4
Subject: Returned Mail: Undeliverable
Subject: Just WHO is this Doctor Wong????
Subject: Re: Tires
Subject: New battery -- $$$!
Subject: Re: gearing
Subject: Re: F2 front wheel
Subject: Doc wongs June 4th clinic
Subject: Re: New battery -- $$$!
Subject: Fwd: gearing
Subject: Re: Tires
Subject: Re: Doc Wong's clinic June 4
Subject: Request addition to list
Subject: Re: F2 front wheel
Subject: Re: New battery -- $$$!
Subject: Re: New battery -- $$$!
Subject: Re: F2 front wheel
Subject: Re: New battery -- $$$!
Subject: My Tires Arrived
Subject: (no subject)
Subject: ignition switch
Subject: Re: Tires
Subject: Re: ignition switch
Subject: Re: ignition switch
Subject: Re: ignition switch
Subject: Re: ignition switch
Subject: HawkGT discussion list
Subject: Re: My Tires Arrived
Subject: F2 front end questions
Subject: Re: F2 front end questions
Subject: "P" walk
Subject: Bump starting? (was: Re: ignition switch)
Subject: Re: Bump starting? (was: Re: ignition switch)
Subject: Re: Bump starting? (was: Re: ignition switch)
Subject: Re: Bump starting? (was: Re: ignition switch)
Subject: subscription
Subject: HawkGT archives ...
Subject: HAWKGT: Honda Hawk Discussion
Subject: Re: Bump starting? (was: Re: ...
Subject: Add another pony to the stable...
Subject: Re: Jet kits?
Subject: MVR Pipe for sale
Subject: Re: MVR Pipe for sale
Subject: honda hawk gt info
Subject: Hawk GT mailing list
Subject: RVF400
Subject: subscribing
Subject: SUBSCRIPTION
Subject: Re: RVF400
Subject: Subscription Request
Subject: Hawk mailing list
Subject: Newsletter
Subject: mailing list...
Subject: Mailing List
Subject: Returned Mail: Undeliverable
Subject: Returned Mail: Undeliverable
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Subject: PLEASE!!?
Subject: supertrapp disks?
Subject: subscription
Subject: Re: supertrapp disks?
Subject: Re: supertrapp disks?
Subject: Hey, anyone
Subject: WTB: Fuel Pump/Relay for '89 Hawk
Subject: WTB: Fuel Pump/Relay for '89 Hawk
Subject: WTB: Fuel Pump/Relay for '89 Hawk
Subject: is this thing on?
Subject: subscription
Subject: Re: Hey, anyone
Subject: RE: is this thing on?
Subject: Re: is this thing on?
Subject: Re: WTB: Fuel Pump/Relay for '89 Hawk
Subject: Re: Hey, anyone
Subject: Re: Hey, anyone
Subject: Re: Hey, anyone
Subject: Re: WTB: Fuel Pump/Relay for '89 Hawk
Subject: Spring stuff
Subject: Re: Hey, anyone
Subject: Re: is this thing on?
Subject: Re: Spring stuff
Subject: Re: WTB: Fuel Pump/Relay for ...
Subject: New tires finally!
Subject: Re: New tires finally!
Subject: Those little shims under the needles
Subject: help
Subject: Re: help--aftermarket parts
Subject: Re: help
Subject: Re: help
Subject: INTERESTED
Subject: Re: I am soon to return
Subject: Re: I am soon to return
Subject: Help
Subject:       head gaskets
Subject: Re: head gaskets
Subject: Re: head gaskets
Subject: Possible head gasket problem
Subject: Re: help
Subject: Re: help
Subject: NT 650 E-Mail
Subject: Returned Mail: Undeliverable
Subject: change of adress
Subject: Exhaust
Subject: tbr
Subject: Re: Exhaust
Subject: HawkGT List
Subject: Re: Exhaust
Subject: Re: Exhaust
Subject: Looking for a part for an EX500, yes I know this is the hawk list
Subject: TBR Exhaust
Subject: Pipe talk
Subject: General Question
Subject: Re: TBR Exhaust
Subject: Re: General Question
Subject: Re: TBR Exhaust
Subject: Wanted: CORBIN
Subject: Beyond 2000 yesterday
Subject: Re: Exhaust
Subject: D&D and MVR (fwd)
Subject: HawkGT Frame
Subject: Re: General Question
Subject: Re: Wanted: CORBIN
Subject: change of adress
Subject: Re: help
Subject: Racing Pics
Subject: Re: TBR Exhaust
Subject: love your list
Subject: (fwd) CBRF2 FRONT END 4 SALE
Subject: F-2 front wheel
Subject: Please subcribe
Subject: Re: F-2 front wheel
Subject: The Road Beckons
Subject: 520 vs. 525?
Subject: Re: 520 vs. 525?
Subject: Re: F-2 front wheel
Subject: Re: Exhaust
Subject: Re: Exhaust
Subject: Wheelies: a Confession

Administriva:

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From Victor.A.King@dartvax.dartmouth.edu Sun Apr 30 21:06 PDT 1995
Subject: Mobile 1??


Is anyone out there using Mobile Juan?

I've found that it has cut down on tranny noise a lot--tho without eliminating
the problems of clunk and miss, unfortunately.

I use a 10w-30 here in NH... do people in cooler-than-hawaii climes find
success with a thicker oil?

What are your collective thoughts on synth vs. dino-rot?

S
88 bleu


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From l-chi@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mon May  1 00:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: what octane gas to use?

I've used 87 octane (with and w/o ethanol) and I had problems. I think 
the higher octane would be a waste of money, unless you have extensive 
engine modification.

Jae

On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Irene Replogle wrote:

> Scott's questions remined me of one of my own; the owner's manual says that 87  
> octane gas is fine.  Is that true, or do you get knock?  What octane gas is  
> best?  What about fuels with ethanol?  Any problems?
> 


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From jel@walker.com Mon May  1 08:21 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Mobile 1??



>Is anyone out there using Mobile Juan?
     
Yes, but I found out the hard way that he gets really pissed when you take
his car away ;-)

Seriously, I've been using Mobil One 15W-50 for 5 years now in a variety of
bikes and am happy to report nothing but wonderful things (although I'm still
waiting to see if it cures my facial twitch).

I don't know if anyone has ever seen the oil FAQ, but Mobil One is one of the
best rated oils out there.  In fact, in a test that Motorcycle Consumer News
did in which they tested different oils (by actually running them through a
bike for 800 miles), Mobil One came out on top against some fairly major
brand "motorcycle oils".  After the 800 mile test, Mobil One had soemthing
like 88% of it's originaly viscosity, etc.  The next closest oil was something
like 75%, then the others dropped into the 60% range.  Just goes to show you
that just because it says "motorcycle" on the oil can doesn't mean that you
get anything extra out of it.

Jeff



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From l-chi@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mon May  1 09:20 PDT 1995
Subject: RE: headlight problem

Thanks for all the helpful tips to my problem. I think it is a problem in 
the starter switch. You really saved me a lot of money and time.

Thanks,

Jae


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From goodmat@freenet.columbus.oh.us Mon May  1 13:39 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Mobile 1??

On 1 May 1995, Victor A. King wrote:

> Is anyone out there using Mobile Juan?

I use it and have been happy with it (10w30). BUT I called Megacycle about
their cams about a month ago and we got around to talking about oils. The
woman I spoke to (Barbara) said that after extensive testing, they can
only recommend 2 oils - Kendall petroleum and Red Line synthetic. She said
that all other oils tested (including all of Castrol's products, Golden
Spectro and Mobile 1 among others) eventually failed. This info mainly
applies to high revving, highly stressed (hot) engines (read: racing), But
I found it interesting nonetheless.

Matt/OH




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From nobody@info.tamu.edu Mon May  1 16:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Web page and oil FAQ

comments: The HawkGT WWW page is at
 
 http://www-chen.tamu.edu/homepage/mel1523/hawkgt.htm
 
 If you can't get in, try the next day, cuz the server is really flaky
 
 Re: the oil (Mobil 1) discussion, the rec.moto oil FAQ can be found in the articles section of the Wab page.  It has lotz of really good DATA on oils as well as an explanation of what oil properties mean.
 
 As always, I am looking for good articles and pictures to put on the page!
 
  - Mitch
 
 P.S. to the guy who sent me the pictures of the 2into2 exhaust system he made, I lost your name and email address.  If you would be kind enough to send them to me, I will modify the web page so you get the credit.


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From Hawknt@aol.com Mon May  1 19:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: what octane gas to use?

One problem I've had using Arco Premuim (with ethanol) occurred with my
previous bike- a Honda FT500.  At one point during the winter, it became more
an more difficult to start.  I checked everything I could think of, including
changing the plugs, checking the air filter for clogs, checking the spark,
etc.  The plugs were coming out slightly wet.  I hadn't ridden the bike much
for about a month.  Finally, I read a letter in Motorcycle Consumer News
about ethanol gas.  It stated that if the tank is low, it tends to pick up
moisture from the air, which settles to the bottom of the tank, and
eventually the float bowl.  I figured it was worth trying since it was
basically free.  I drained the float bowl, changed the spark plug and bingo,
it started right up.

I occassionally use the Arco still in my Hawk, but I make sure I don't let it
get too low with that brand before filling up.  

Hawknt


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From alan@wana.pbrc.Hawaii.Edu Mon May  1 20:53 PDT 1995
Subject: gearing

Does anyone out there have gearing recommendations?  My bike has about 26k
on it and is on its third chain and this makes me nervous.  The current
chain is about a year old and is a non o-ring 525.  I'm interested in the
520 Pro-Tekk conversion someone mentioned last month and so I figured why
not change the gearing while I'm at it.  Some things to consider -- out
here the traffic is mostly stop and go and I do pack quite often.  I don't
race (can't afford it), and I don't tour (its a Hawk, I'm on an island, who
am I kidding).  I have a Muzzy and jetting will happen in about 2 weeks.  I
seem to recall someone running a 17 F 41 R at Daytona but how streetworthy 
would that leave my Hawk?  Should I save a little more and get an o-ring
chain?  Anybody tried a 1 down (front) and   
3 up(back)?  Anybody regret leaving the stock gearing?  Any advice would
appreciated.  Thanks.
Alan



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From CAFilter@aol.com Mon May  1 21:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Hawk GT mailing list.

To whom it may concern,

I'm interested to here back from this for many reasons.  I have interest in
all types of V-twins and bikes of distinction with favor to the Hawk.  
 
Please reply.

Thank you,

Jerry Anderson
CAFilter@AOL.com



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From ddc10@columbia.edu Tue May  2 01:35 PDT 1995
Subject: RC31 potentially for sale...

Well, folks, here's the situation:  I'm in the process of building an 
RC31 replica for the street.  It looks like impending tuition bills will 
force me to sell either it or my racebike.  You all know my feelings on 
what Hawks are worth; I wanted to see what yours were re: this machine.  
I expect, barring the unforseen, that it will be for sale around July.

This is merely an opinion poll; however, if someone is seriously 
interested, I'd be happy to talk seriously as well, with the 
understanding that the bike isn't done yet.

What it is: 1989 Hawk, unknown original miles.

What's on it or about to be on it:

- 1993 F2 forks and brakes.
- Graves motorsports aluminum clip-ons.
- Polished frame/tripleclamps.
- Fully rebuilt motor.
*- Supertrapp exhaust
- Factory Ti-Pro config. 030 jet kit
- Uni pod filters.
- Pro-Tekk 520 conversion
*- Progressive 2-clicker remote res. rear shock
- MEZ1 Radials, 160/60x17 rear, 120/70x17 front
- AirTech solo tail
- Custom aluminum subframe/seat bracket.
*- RC30 upper fairing with custom bracket
- Stainless lines all around, rear routed through swingarm
- Paint scheme to be determined

Those items marked with a * have not yet actually been bolted on 
(although I do have them in my possession, I can exchange them) so they 
could be upgraded.

What do you think this is worth, folks?

Hope to hear from Y'all,
DC



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From <@adi.analog.com:Kenneth.Lawas@analog.com> Tue May  2 05:35 PDT 1995
Subject: RE: Paint...


 Here's the info off ColorRite's card.  I haven't used
 their paint yet, so I can't endorse them.

 -Ken



      ColorRite Distributing East
         division of The Motor Co.
    
      123 Blaine St.
      East Bangor, PA  18013
    
      Order 1-(800) 358-1882
      Tech  1-(610) 588-7355
      Fax   1-(610) 588-1570
    
      O.E.M. Color Motorcycle Paints



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From vgregory@mckinley.den.mmc.com Tue May  2 08:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Re:  RC31 potentially for sale...

Oh, God.  I feel a severe case of bike-lust coming on.

(No, Val! You've got a new computer to pay for!  The
backyard needs grass!  The kids need shoes!  Ain't no more
room in the garage!)

I think I'd better go for a ride and cool off.


;)

Val Gregory
'90 Hawk GT - "Redtailed"
DoD #1258


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From greaney@ee.unr.edu Tue May  2 09:20 PDT 1995
Subject: While we're on the topic


Sprockets.  I want to swap sprockets.

I know there is a 520 conversion out there, but I'm looking
specifically at decreasing # of teeth on the rear, providing
for a better top end (hopefully), and lower revving for
my typical highway riding.  This will NOT be for the track,
and that's why I'm shooting for taller gearing in the high
speed end.

Anyone experiemented with a smaller sprocket in the rear?



Thanks,

Mike


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From greaney@ee.unr.edu Tue May  2 09:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Ooooh, RC31 cometh.


Hey everybody:

Looks like my dream is materializing.  I should hopefully take possesion
of an RC30 upper/lower/headlights (actually GSX-R headlights), as well
as a rear cowl and buttpad.

Next is a RR shock, and some tires, and a Corbin (to swap out for longish
trips).

I'll fill everyone in as soon as I can, but for the time being,
I need advice on paint schemes and such.  And ideas?   I considered
a Camel YELLOW!!! (yes, screaming yellow)

Hasta, and updates to come this evening.

Mike


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From tosch@acsu.buffalo.edu Tue May  2 10:07 PDT 1995
Subject: Hawk FS Ohio area



I saw this in a photo ad:

		1988 Hawk GT, excellent condition, 3500 miles.
		$2500.  Columbiana, OH     (216) 482-1719  leave message

I called on it because I had been planning on gettin one.  The guy is 37 
years old and found a cruiser he wants.  He said it's been advertised for 
about a week now.  All stock, red.  

Mike



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From greaney@ee.unr.edu Tue May  2 10:37 PDT 1995
Subject: WHoever is at the user@gypsy.sj.u . . .


I keep getting return messages with MY USER NAME attached to YOUR MACHINE
ADDRESS.  If this is a problem with your system or SA, please inform the 
appripriate party.


Thanks,

Mike


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From gilman@mtwil1.mtwilson.edu Tue May  2 13:13 PDT 1995
Subject: Intake mods

Mike, 

    Was it you who has your Hawk for sale?  Something on your list of
mods piqued my interest.  You said you had intake mods on the Hawk and
still had the original parts.  What exactly did you do if you don't mind
my asking?
      			Thanks,

      			Pam

gilman@mtwil1.mtwilson.edu
   


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From ecarrico@spl.lib.wa.us Tue May  2 13:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Tanks, again.



On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, Val Gregory wrote:

> I'd be interested in costs for both the metal rebuild and the
> fiberglass tank.  For the fiberglass, let's start throwing
> numbers out - seems I remember the last time we were close to
> getting a shop to come up with a 'glass tank, the price was
> about $750.  I was willing to bite at that.  I'd like to check

$750 seems a little steep to me.  That's the same as the cost to buy a 
new frame from Honda of America.

> (My SO's favorite line - "You need to stop AGAIN?"
> 
I thought this refered to a _filled_ condition :-)

Ellen Carrico		  Absurdity.  A statement or belief manifestly
ecarrico@spl.lib.wa.us    inconsistent with one's own opinion.
							Ambrose Bierce
                          




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From mudpuppy@gibbs.oit.unc.edu Tue May  2 14:16 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Tanks, again.

> > I'd be interested in costs for both the metal rebuild and the
> > fiberglass tank.  For the fiberglass, let's start throwing
> > numbers out - seems I remember the last time we were close to
> > getting a shop to come up with a 'glass tank, the price was
> > about $750.  I was willing to bite at that.  I'd like to check
> 
> $750 seems a little steep to me.  That's the same as the cost to buy a 
> new frame from Honda of America.
> 

Yeah, I think that's out of line.  I bet if one of us could design the 
new tank with AutoCad out of fairly flat pieces of aluminum, we could 
have them welded in aluminum for less than that.

Just my opinion.
Phil


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From gennari@universe.net.hawaii.edu Tue May  2 19:36 PDT 1995
Subject: Jet kits?

Hiya,

OK, I posted this question to rec.moto to no avail: What exactly is a 
jet kit? Is this a techincal way of saying muffler? What, if anything,
does it do to performance? What kits are availble for Hawks?

Thanks,
Scott Gennari
gennari@Hawaii.Edu

'88 Hawk 




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From JPlott@aol.com Tue May  2 21:38 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: gearing

Allan,  A good rule of thumb is to use as large a front sprocket as possible.
 You do not want to go down because of the more abrupt transition the chain
must make on the smaller sprocket.  I say that knowing that the front
sprocket is the least expensive.   But still go as large as possible on the
front ....then adjust the rear for the ratio you want.  Going up on the rear
sprocket size will give you more acceleration off the line but slower top
speed at a given engine RPM.
Going down on the rear will give you slower acceleration but higher top speed
if you have the power to pull the taller gearing to redline.
Half the fun is doing the computations of speed/RPM's/tire rotation length
and then trying the sprockets.  You always have something to look forward to!

John


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From greaney@ee.unr.edu Wed May  3 01:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Doc Wong's clinic June 4


So is anyone else going?  I'll be there, as will a couple
of non-hawk riding friends.  Hope to have the RC31 conversion
complete by then! :)

Sounds like a good experience, and it's FREE!  If you need more
info, e-mail DOCWONG@aol.com.


Hope to see a bunch of youz peoples there.

Mike


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From mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil Wed May  3 04:12 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: hawk speedo light

>the Bike: '88 Gray,  a serious neophyte found this gem with 12K, mint
>condition, supertrapp, progressives, corbin, stainless steel front brake lines,
>and targa fairing for $2000 cash. He is pretty scared of it and has offered it
>to me for $2500. Aside from the questionable moral aspects, the bike also needs
>new rubber (it has old looking michelins) and a new right side mirror (he broke
>off the old one and scraped the bar end while trying to park it -- i guess
>those fixed brick dorm buildings can come out of nowhere :)). It also has a
>non-functioning speedo light -- how hard is this to fix??? That's it for the
>bike.

Sounds a lot like mine.  Offer him $2K.  I had to replace my speedo bulb, too.  
It's very easy, you just need a screwdriver and a small (8mm?) socket.  I
think I 
moved or rotated the headlight down to give more room.  The bulb is a standard 
automotive bulb, get it at any discount auto place.  The Honda shop manual shows
how to take the instrument cluster apart.

David Mackintosh       '82 245 Turbo    '92 Sovereign    '89 Hawk GT
mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil      Germantown, MD, USA        DoD #1360



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From Gumby647@aol.com Wed May  3 04:24 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: While we're on the topic

     Mike,

   A stock Hawk won't pull stock gearing to the revlimiter in top gear
so running taller gearing won't make the bike any faster up top.  You
will however get better mpg on the highway. If you are going for a 520
chain you can modify a EX500 17T front sprocket to work on the 
Hawk. A larger front sprocket means the chain has to bend less and
will increase the life of the chain.

                                                                 Gumby


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From Gumby647@aol.com Wed May  3 04:25 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: gearing

    Alan,

   If I understand you correctly you want lower gearing for more accel.
A 15F 47R that you described would give impressive wheelies but
poor mpg at any kind of highway speed. You should go 1 or 2 teeth
at a time. Usually one tooth off the front is equall to adding three to 
the rear. Definitely get an o-ring chain its well worth the money.

                                                                Gumby


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From sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil Wed May  3 05:24 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Oil question

>Hi all,
>
>I've had my '88 Hawk for a month now and have some questions about oil.
What brand/grade
>oil are you all using? What should I stay away from? So far I've been using
Pennzoil
>GT Performance 20W-50 (with Z-7 (??)). 

        With a 3,000 mile oil change interval, that oil would offer adequate
protection. It seems a bit heavy for anything but 100 deg weather. What does
your owners manual say? I use Mobil 1, and will be trying the new Valvoline
dyno/synthetic mix next time. All my race bikes get Mobil 1.


>I tend to wind the engine more that I probably should but I like to use
engine breaking 
>when I can (effective and sounds cool). So I may need an oil that can
retain is 
>composition at high temperature in the warm climate of Hawaii.

        Run it up to redline all you want, but engine braking is poor riding
technique. Use the brakes to slow down, and downshift as necessary to keep
the engine rpm in the range you want it.


>I also noticed some oil on the crankshaft casing (yikes!!). The appearance
of the oil
>residue was correlated with adding a slightly different type of Pennziol a
couple weeks
>ago. Before that there was no oil residue anywhere. Any ideas or things I
should check?

        Clean it up and keep an eye on it for leakage.  You mentioned that
you get only 75 miles on a tank. This seems very low. Have you changed the
jetting, pipes, etc., or is it stock? Sounds like somethings not tuned
right, unless this is all twisty riding.

        You also mentioned 120 mph.  Remember; that speedometer is about
plus or minus 10 mph at the uppper end.

rich



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From sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil Wed May  3 05:40 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: gearing

>Does anyone out there have gearing recommendations?  My bike has about 26k
>on it and is on its third chain and this makes me nervous.  The current
>chain is about a year old and is a non o-ring 525.  I'm interested in the
>520 Pro-Tekk conversion someone mentioned last month and so I figured why

        Two thoughts- cheap chains wear quickly.
                      new chain on old sprockets will wear quickly too.


>seem to recall someone running a 17 F 41 R at Daytona but how streetworthy 
>would that leave my Hawk?  Should I save a little more and get an o-ring
>chain?  Anybody tried a 1 down (front) and   
>3 up(back)?  Anybody regret leaving the stock gearing?  Any advice 

        1 down, 3 up would yeild a 14% difference!! Thats a bunch. For
street use I've found the stock setup fine. What tires are you running? That
will affect your gearing also.

rich



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From sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil Wed May  3 05:43 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: While we're on the topic

>I know there is a 520 conversion out there, but I'm looking
>specifically at decreasing # of teeth on the rear, providing
>for a better top end (hopefully), and lower revving for
>my typical highway riding.  This will NOT be for the track,
>and that's why I'm shooting for taller gearing in the high
>speed end.

    You can easily calc. the impact of the sprocket. There numbers are a
guess; I don't know the stock sprocket size.

        move to smaller rear  42 to 41 tooth = 2.3% lower rpm at given speed
        move to larger front  16 to 17 tooth = 6.3% lower rpm at given speed

>Anyone experiemented with a smaller sprocket in the rear?

        Sure, but you may find it difficult finding steel sprocket in
different sizes. Al. sprocket, which are used for racing, will wear quickly
on the street. Front sprockets are always steel.

rich



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From wroof@ns1.netside.com Wed May  3 07:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Jet kits?

>OK, I posted this question to rec.moto to no avail:

Gee, what a surprise.

> What exactly is a jet kit? 

New jets (and possibly needles and springs) for your carburetors, to change
the delivery of fuel. Usually as in MORE, as most bikes come set up very
lean to meet emissions requirements.

>Is this a techincal way of saying muffler?

It's on the opposite side of the motor from the muffler. If you get an
aftermarket muffler less restrictive than stock, you will almost certainly
want a jet kit as well, otherwise your fuel mixture will be too lean. I
haven't tried it, but people report improvements from re-jetting even with
the stock ballast, I mean muffler. Jet kits are often also accompanied by
replacing the airbox with foam or K&N type fabric air filters, or by
drilling holes in the airbox. The objective is to let air flow more freely
through the motor. The jet kit puts more gas in to match the increased flow
of air.

> What, if anything, does it do to performance?

Should improve it, giving a bit more power and smoother response through
various engine speeds (eliminate the infamous 3k RPM hole). 

> What kits are availble for Hawks?

HRC (sold by Two Brothers, I think) makes a great kit for $250 (gasp) that
includes new slides, springs, and air filters. There is a less comprehensive
kit out there for around $60, I think.

HOWEVER:

If you know which end of the screwdriver to grab, and have an hour to spare,
you can probably save yourself $$$ by following the advice on jetting from
the Hawk web site. You only have to buy one new jet from your Honda dealer
and scrounge some small washers from the bottom of your toolbox. Cost is
<$5! I did it with advice from this list, as have others.
 
BTW, I'm envious. I got to Oahu twice, and really wished I had a bike! How
do you get any studying done?

Dave Roof    "That's too far to go in a car!"

wroof@mail.netside.com  w.roof@genie.geis.com [Yane]  '85 K100RT [Waltraude]
West Columbia SC  BMWMOA 68743  HRCA  Conebutt  CORT  '88 Hawk [Jason]
IBMWR Generalisimo and Principal Euphonist



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From greaney@ee.unr.edu Wed May  3 09:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: While we're on the topic

> 
>      Mike,
> 
>    A stock Hawk won't pull stock gearing to the revlimiter in top gear
> so running taller gearing won't make the bike any faster up top.  You

Don't necessarily want better top speed on the street, just a higher
level of comfort when highway riding, and lower revs for what I do.

> will however get better mpg on the highway. If you are going for a 520
> chain you can modify a EX500 17T front sprocket to work on the 
> Hawk. A larger front sprocket means the chain has to bend less and
> will increase the life of the chain.

Cool, thanks for the input.  I was going to shoot for the 520 conversion,
and go for a larger front.  Who makes these kits?

Mike


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From greaney@ee.unr.edu Wed May  3 09:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: hawk speedo light

> It's very easy, you just need a screwdriver and a small (8mm?) socket.  I
> think I 
> moved or rotated the headlight down to give more room.  The bulb is a standard 
> automotive bulb, get it at any discount auto place.  The Honda shop manual shows
> how to take the instrument cluster apart.

OK, I've done that before as well, but how does one get to the 
tach light?


Thanks,

Mike


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From greaney@ee.unr.edu Wed May  3 09:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: While we're on the topic

> 
> >I know there is a 520 conversion out there, but I'm looking
> >specifically at decreasing # of teeth on the rear, providing
> >for a better top end (hopefully), and lower revving for
> >my typical highway riding.  This will NOT be for the track,
> >and that's why I'm shooting for taller gearing in the high
> >speed end.
> 
>     You can easily calc. the impact of the sprocket. There numbers are a
> guess; I don't know the stock sprocket size.
> 
>         move to smaller rear  42 to 41 tooth = 2.3% lower rpm at given speed
>         move to larger front  16 to 17 tooth = 6.3% lower rpm at given speed

Math and Science.  Wow. :)

So, how much would a combination be (i'll figure it out later), say
41R/17F.

> >Anyone experiemented with a smaller sprocket in the rear?
> 
>         Sure, but you may find it difficult finding steel sprocket in
> different sizes. Al. sprocket, which are used for racing, will wear quickly
> on the street. Front sprockets are always steel.

Aluminum sprockets should wear incredibly quickly under normal
circumstances, but do they when considering a 380lb, low
power motorcycle?


Thanks,

Mike


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From goodmat@freenet.columbus.oh.us Wed May  3 13:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: F2 front wheel

On Sun, 30 Apr 1995 GTRider9@aol.com wrote:

> A wider front wheel is a big improvement.  It slows down the steering a
> touch, but it allows the use of a front tire having a profile more compatible
> with the rear.  With the stock wheels and tires I was running the front tire

This is what I was curious about. I currently run Michelin 89X's on mine
and the front is fairly triangular. I didn't know if this was due to the
design of the tire or the narrowness of the rim though. The tires are very
good overall, but I don't care for the vague fell while turning in
(especially in the rain).
  
> I sent my wheel to Kosman and had it widened 1" ($350) rather than use the F2
> wheel because I like the looks of the stocker.  The widened wheel leaks no

I checked into this for the same reasons (looks), but I couldn't jsutify
the cost.

Thanks for the reply.

Matt/OH




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From goodmat@freenet.columbus.oh.us Wed May  3 13:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Doc Wong's clinic June 4

On Wed, 3 May 1995, Mike Nielsen wrote:

> So is anyone else going?  I'll be there, as will a couple
> of non-hawk riding friends.  Hope to have the RC31 conversion
> complete by then! :)

Who is Doc Wong and what does he do? (I want to have an idea before I
email him). 

Thanks
Matt/OH




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From Gumby647@aol.com Wed May  3 22:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: While we're on the topic

    Mike,

  No one makes a kit with a 17T front sprocket because its not
supposed to fit. The teeth will hit the shifter shaft, thats where the
grinder comes in. You only need to take 2mm off teeth to provide
clearance and this doesn't effect chain engagement at all. The EX500
sprocket needs to have a retainer from an EX because of hole offset.
Also a 17, 44 combo may be to tall, the gearing math wiz guys on
the list should be able to help you more with that.
   As far as AL sprockets go I have had no problems with them. If
you keep your chain oiled and the dirt of it they will be fine.
   I always buy my sprockets from Sprocket Specialties for price and
selection I think they make steele rears too.

                                                           Gumby

 

         


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From ddc10@columbia.edu Thu May  4 01:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: While we're on the topic

Sprocket Specialists only make steel rears in stock sizes.

I don't know about futzing with those sprockets... why not just buy 
gearing that fits?  Stock is 16/44, for an overall ratio of 2.75.  I 
really think deviating from that majorly on the street is a bad idea.  
Why not just drop it a little, say to 2.63 (16/42)?  More than that I 
would think is going to create such a loss of acceleration as to be a 
noticaeable problem.

Granted, front sprockets are cheaper.  The common part #'s (from 
Tucker-Rocky Dist.) are 90-47XX, with the XX being replaced by the number 
of teeth you want, for the front, and 91-03XX for the rear. My books onyl 
show a range of 14-17T on the front, and only 44T on the rear.  Hmmmm...

Well, check the prices, someone.  Pro-Tekk can be reached at 
1-800-PRO-TEKK, Sprocket Specialists at 1-800-782-8200.  On the whole, 
I've found Pro-Tekk's service to be somewhat better, but Sprocket 
Spcialists aren't slouches either.

C y'all,
DC



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From ddc10@columbia.edu Thu May  4 01:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Doc Wong's clinic June 4

On Wed, 3 May 1995, Matt Goodman wrote:

> On Wed, 3 May 1995, Mike Nielsen wrote:
> 
> > So is anyone else going?  I'll be there, as will a couple
> > of non-hawk riding friends.  Hope to have the RC31 conversion
> > complete by then! :)
> 
> Who is Doc Wong and what does he do? (I want to have an idea before I
> email him). 
> 
Ditto.  Who B Doc Wong?

DC



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From ddc10@columbia.edu Thu May  4 01:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: F2 front wheel

> On Sun, 30 Apr 1995 GTRider9@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > I sent my wheel to Kosman and had it widened 1" ($350) rather than use the F2
> > wheel because I like the looks of the stocker.  The widened wheel leaks no
> 
> I checked into this for the same reasons (looks), but I couldn't jsutify
> the cost.
> 
WOW!!! For $350, you could have bought a '93'94 CBR1000 wheel with 
rotors, which has a cool-looking 3-spoke design AND comes with dual 
discs!  You would even have had money left over for good calipers and pads.

Of course, I doubt this helps you now...

BTW- I do happen to know that the CBR1000 wheel does bolt into the stock 
front end without any problem, much like an F2 wheel.

C ya
DC



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From wroof@ns1.netside.com Thu May  4 05:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Jet kits?

>OK, I posted this question to rec.moto to no avail:

Gee, what a surprise.

> What exactly is a jet kit? 

New jets (and possibly needles and springs) for your carburetors, to change
the delivery of fuel. Usually as in MORE, as most bikes come set up very
lean to meet emissions requirements.

>Is this a techincal way of saying muffler?

It's on the opposite side of the motor from the muffler. If you get an
aftermarket muffler less restrictive than stock, you will almost certainly
want a jet kit as well, otherwise your fuel mixture will be too lean. I
haven't tried it, but people report improvements from re-jetting even with
the stock ballast, I mean muffler. Jet kits are often also accompanied by
replacing the airbox with foam or K&N type fabric air filters, or by
drilling holes in the airbox. The objective is to let air flow more freely
through the motor. The jet kit puts more gas in to match the increased flow
of air.

> What, if anything, does it do to performance?

Should improve it, giving a bit more power and smoother response through
various engine speeds (eliminate the infamous 3k RPM hole). 

> What kits are availble for Hawks?

HRC (sold by Two Brothers, I think) makes a great kit for $250 (gasp) that
includes new slides, springs, and air filters. There is a less comprehensive
kit out there for around $60, I think.

HOWEVER:

If you know which end of the screwdriver to grab, and have an hour to spare,
you can probably save yourself $$$ by following the advice on jetting from
the Hawk web site. You only have to buy one new jet from your Honda dealer
and scrounge some small washers from the bottom of your toolbox. Cost is
<$5! I did it with advice from this list, as have others.
 
BTW, I'm envious. I got to Oahu twice, and really wished I had a bike! How
do you get any studying done?

Dave Roof    "That's too far to go in a car!"

wroof@mail.netside.com  w.roof@genie.geis.com [Yane]  '85 K100RT [Waltraude]
West Columbia SC  BMWMOA 68743  HRCA  Conebutt  CORT  '88 Hawk [Jason]
IBMWR Generalisimo and Principal Euphonist



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From ditullio@VNET.IBM.COM Thu May  4 07:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Tires

It seems that metzler mez2's are on backorder from metzler until sept., so
what's the next best tire, keeping in mind that I don't want to have to buy
a new tire every 3,000 miles.
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|Mike DiTullio                 |All opinions are my own, and I have    |
|ditullio@lfs.loral.com        |thousands of them to donate...ask me.  |
|Spazman@aol.com               |  87 VW-GTI, 89 Hawk-GT, 95 ST1100     |
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From jel@walker.com Thu May  4 08:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Doc Wong's clinic June 4

     Hi Mike,
     
     I plan on attending too.  Although I don't think my Hawk will be
     ready so I'll be on my VFR ('93 - white).  Look for me and introduce
     yourself.  I'll look for you.  What color is your Hawk?
     
     Jeff



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From Victor.A.King@dartvax.dartmouth.edu Thu May  4 08:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Chain


just a quick question:

can one use lighter fluid on an O-ring chain to degrease?

i dont  have any kerosene handy.

thanks.

S


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From goodmat@freenet.columbus.oh.us Thu May  4 08:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: F2 front wheel

On Thu, 4 May 1995, Dennis Daniel Crowley wrote:

> BTW- I do happen to know that the CBR1000 wheel does bolt into the stock 
> front end without any problem, much like an F2 wheel.

Will the Hawk disc bolt onto it? One reason I'm looking into getting an F2
wheel is because I've heard the hawk disk will bolt right on. 


Matt/OH




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From Victor.A.King@dartvax.dartmouth.edu Thu May  4 08:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Doc Wong's clinic June 4

since no one seems to be answering this question of said Dr. Wong, i will
attempt to.


if memory serves he is the leading moto-related injury Dr. 

as for his clinic... i dont know if they treat there or what.

S


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Having been away from the list, California, the United States, etc. 
for a month, I am soon to return.  

Only 657k of email to read.  

I read some of HawkGT.  

WRT tanks.  I have plan, a real one, for larger steel tanks.  After
a year's waffling, and being turned down by many tank fab places,
and having a mule to work with, and having done drawings and measurements,
I am working on a forming buck for new steel tanks!

This is a non-trivial step that will eventually result in HawkGT tanks 
similar to the new Euro CB500, with about a 5 gallon capacity.

The forming tools are on the way by UPS.  I have a welder lined up
to do final assembly, and a sealing place to make sure the tanks do 
not leak, and a autobody place to smooth and paint the results.

Do not ask for price or schedule; I do not have any.  

More on this later.

While in Berlin, I checked the VFR 400 tank;  It does not fit a 
HawkGT.  Too bad.

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Legalize guns, drugs and cash...today.	   3700 Segerstrom Ave
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From jel@walker.com Thu May  4 08:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Just WHO is this Doctor Wong????

     
     Yes, Doc Wong is chiropractor (sp?) and has been on radio, etc.
     
     But!  On a monthly basis, he holds a riding clinic free of charge.
     Different topics are covered each month (e.g. Cornering technique,
     Riding the Pace, etc).  Sometimes he has famous guest speakers like
     Keith Code.  Following an hour "classroom" session, a ride through
     the backroads of the Woodside/California coast area is done.  
     The ride, apparently, is about 3 hours and riders are split up into
     groups of 10.  A set route is followed.
     
     This will be my first clinic so I can't give you any other 
     information.  What I know is based upon what has been told to me.
     Seems like a good way to meet some of my fellow Hawk-ers though
     (as well as ride).
     
     Jeff



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From jel@walker.com Thu May  4 08:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Tires

     I don't think it would matter much on the Hawk anyway because the
     bike is so light, but...
     
     I bought a set of Conti Sport Radial 2000's (Z-rated) based upon
     a tire test I saw in Performance Bikes or Fast Bikes (I can't
     remember now).  They rated the Conti's first just slightly above
     the Battlax and the MeZ's.  I've had the tires on my VFR and am
     very pleased with them.  They are wearing just fine.  Not that it
     matters but a Conti ad I saw for them said something like "wouldn't
     you like a sport tire that lasts longer than a pizza?"
     
     Fyi...Conti has two tires with the "2000" designation, do not
     confuse the V-rated tire with the Z-rated.  The Z-rated tire IS
     the one that was tested/rated by the article I read.
     
     Jeff


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Date:    5/4/95 10:54 AM


It seems that metzler mez2's are on backorder from metzler until sept., so 
what's the next best tire, keeping in mind that I don't want to have to buy 
a new tire every 3,000 miles.
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|ditullio@lfs.loral.com        |thousands of them to donate...ask me.  | 
|Spazman@aol.com               |  87 VW-GTI, 89 Hawk-GT, 95 ST1100     | 
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From gilman@mtwil1.mtwilson.edu Thu May  4 08:50 PDT 1995
Subject: New battery -- $$$!

Hi all,

     After making significant modifications on my forks and getting 
everything buttoned up, and chomping at the bit to go riding, I was
_ greatly_ disappointed to find that even after faithfully charging my
battery all through the winter, it's dead. :-(

     First, I tried Dennis Kirk.  The Yuasa battery listed in the '94
catalog for the Hawk is $79.99.  Well, turns out that's "no longer
available from the factory."  Okay.  So I called the nearest Honda
dealer yesterday.  They want, gulp, $100.00!!!  Is this totally out of
line?  What have you all paid for your battery, and BTW, how long did 
it last?  My dead battery is original, so I guess it's not too 
unreasonable that I need a new one now.  I'm going to take it apart
to see if just the plates were sulphated or what the problem is.  But
$100 sure seems like a lot of money just for a battery.  Any comments?

      				Pam

gilman@mtwil1.mtwilson.edu	



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From CYNTHIA@diablo.adm.clarkson.edu Thu May  4 09:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: gearing

> From:           sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Rich Sturges)
> Subject:        Re: gearing
> Copies to:      hawkgt@dsea.com

>         Two thoughts- cheap chains wear quickly.
>What's cheap what isn't?                       

new chain on old sprockets will wear quickly too.

Why is this?? I'm looking at a used bike which has been stored 
outside uncovered (unthinkable to me but...) the chain nedds to be 
replaced from the look of it (4,000mi._ heavily rusted but the 
spocket I thought would be OK.. 

Your thoughts.

CJ
 


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From goodmat@freenet.columbus.oh.us Thu May  4 09:36 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: F2 front wheel

On Thu, 4 May 1995 Hawknt@aol.com wrote:

> I'm also running the 89Xs and find them to be great.  The front tire is
> designed specifically for a 2.5" rim- it's supposed to be quite rounded.  I
> find that even at full lean (for me at least on the street- just scraping the
> peg feelers) I don't run out near the edge of the tread.  Good to hear
> someone else has trid them with good success.

The front seems a little pointy to me, although once at a good lean angle
it feels very nice. I met a guy at Grattan this year who said he's had
the Michelin's and has since installed Metzeler MEZ2's on both ends. He
claims they were better than the Michelins !  Until I heard that, I always
equated Michelin 89's with Metzeler MEZ1's - I thought both were supposed
to be a very sporty street tire. Taking that line of reasoning a little
further, the MEZ1 should be even stickier than the 89's.
 I'm thinking of racing my Hawk next year and was considering putting
Metzeler Comp K's on both ends. I've heard they are better in the rain
than the MEZ1 and a racer friend told me they slide very predictably,
which would (I think) be an advantage for a beginner.
 I've got a pair of Race Tech emulators to install, then hopefully a good
shock (opinions anybody?), maybe an F2 front wheel. The guy I know who is
racing currently said he has heard scuttlebutt from various people racing
Hawks that this (the wider wheel) made a huge improvement.

Matt/OH




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From MBRODESKY@SC9.intel.com Thu May  4 09:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Doc wongs June 4th clinic


Hi, here's the info you requested.  Let me know if you're planning to attend.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Dr. Harry Wong's Monthly Riding Clinic for:

    Sunday, June 4, 1995,  8:00am.
    Topic: " Cornering with Confidence - Judging Entrance Speeds and Throttle
Control"

The purpose of this topic is to increase your skill and precision when
entering a turn and how to exit smoothly..

I think you'll like this!

As always, there will also be a discussion about:

        1.  Riding Within Your Abilities 
        2.  Riding In Groups.
        3.  Public Relations

Several folks have expressed their interest in attending, but what 
we need for you to do now is to CONFIRM via E-mail or  telephone to 
Dr. Wong's office in Redwood City if you're planning on attending.  
The phone number at the office is 1-415-365-7775.

The clinic will meet at (of all places) a clinic... ;-)

We'll meet at 8AM at:	Wong Chiropractic
			1391 Woodside Road,
			Suite 200
			Redwood City, CA 94061

Please be gassed up and ready for a three hour ride after the one hour
seminar.  We won't be stopping for a snack until about 10 am, so
if you get hungry before that time of the day either bring a snack
with you or eat before you arrive.

Dr. Harry Wong, a prominent Redwood City chiropractor and extremely
knowledgeable sport rider, has started a monthly series of Motorcycle
Riding Clinics. These seminars are FREE, and consist of a one hour
lecture followed by a three hour group ride in the beautiful Santa
Cruz mountains.

PURPOSE: Enhance your riding skills, increase your enjoyment, and
learn better riding survival reflexes.

COST: FREE

TYPE OF MOTORCYCLE:  If it has 2 wheels and a motor, you're invited.

SKILL LEVEL REQUIRED: Since these are not fast sport rides, any
reasonably competent rider should be able to participate.  We
recommend that you be comfortable with your bike and knowledgeable
about your (and your bike's) limitations and capabilities.  If you
have been riding for at least six months you've probably got the
minimum level of expertise required.  The bottom line is that if you can 
safely negotiate the mountainous roads off Skyline Blvd, then you do 
have the minimum skills for the ride.

EQUIPMENT REQUIRED: A motorcycle in good mechanical condition, helmet,
gloves, heavy jacket (leather or heavy material), heavy pants,
boots... in other words, sensible riding attire.  If you show up in
shorts, tank top, Oakley blades and flipflops on your feet, you _may_
be invited to go home.  You must also have a valid motorcycle license
and insurance.  Full leathers are encouraged.

RIDING LOCATION: Any and all backroads off Skyline Blvd, along the
coast, Highway 9, etc.

HOW TO REGISTER: E-mail Dr. Wong at DOCWONG@AOL.Com or call 415-365-7775.
E-mail your US Postal address and he'll mail you flyers on upcomming clinics.

TIMES: Saturday or Sunday mornings, 8:00AM to 9:00AM for the workshop
with approximately 3 hours riding afterwards.  Lunch in Davenport at 12noon.

WHO: Dr. Harry Wong, with guest ride leaders, and who knows?

WORKSHOP FORMAT: The one hour talk will cover one major topic.  Then
when we ride, we ride with the emphasis of applying the principles of
that one topic.

We split the riders into groups of around 10 riders each, according to what
 YOU think your riding skill level is.  The first group will  generally ride
at
a faster pace and the last group riding at the slowest pace.

You can ride at a slower pace, you don't need to feel like you have to keep
up with the riders in front of you.

We'll have experienced riders in the lead and at the rear.  Those
riders will be designated to you prior to beginning the ride, and if
they see you doing something unsafe (hard braking late into corners,
running wide, etc.) or if they have a technique tip for you, they'll
talk to you about it at the next rest stop.  If it looks serious
enough, they might even motion for you to pull over.

It's important to approach this whole thing with the right attitude.
If one of the designated rider/instructors talks to you, it's meant to
be constructive criticism and should be taken that way.  After all,
the purpose of the Clinics is to improve your skills.

We try to ride at a moderate pace, and we hold the speed down on the
straightways to allow slower riders to catch up.  We stop at any
intersection where we're turning off to another road and we don't
continue until everyone has arrived.

We'll try to make rest stops long enough so that the slower riders
will get a rest, too.

TOPICS:
        
              o  Cornering Confidence - The Steering Input -

	o  Handling and Predicting Road Conditions

	o  Lines of travel

	o  Seeing where you're going

	o  Road surfaces

	o  Cornering Confidence - throttle control -

	o  Safety gear

	o  Smooth riding

	o  Body english & weight transfer

	o  Riding "The Pace"

	o  Smooth Riding -  Handle bar pressure -

	o  Others, to be announced

RIDE ROUTE:

We start at Dr. Wong's office on Woodside Road in Redwood City.  We go
up Woodside Road, through Woodside, and turn right on King's Mountain
Road.  We go up King's Mountain Road to Skyline and stop there for a
short break.  This is the first opportunity for our volunteer leaders
to give any tips to the riders they've observed.

>From there, we head down Tunitas Creek Road (decribed by my late
friend Brett as "a goddamned GOAT TRAIL!") ;-).  We follow Tunitas
Creek Road all the way down to Highway 1, where we take a short jaunt
down 1 to Stage Road.  Left on Stage road to San Gregorio's little
General Store, where we take another short break.

>From San Gregorio, we go south on Stage Road to the little town of
Pescadero (which is a veritable METROPOLIS compared to San Gregorio).
Pescadero is the first opportunity to gas up, so you need to make sure
you have at least enough gas to make it there.  Another short break at
Pescadero, and then we head east on Pescadero Road a short ways to
Cloverdale Road, where we turn south (right) again.  We follow
Cloverdale road down to Gazos Creek Road, where we turn west (right).

We follow Gazos Creek Road to Highway 1, and then take a trip down 1
to Davenport, where we stop for lunch.  After lunch, it's south on
Highway 1 again to Bonny Doone Road, where we turn east (left).  Don't
turn right there, or you'll be suprised at the lack of floatation a
set of leathers provides.  ;-)

Up Bonny Doone Road to Pine Flat Road, left on Pine Flat road and up
to Empire Grade.  North (left) on Empire Grade to Jameson Creek
Road, down Jameson Creek Road to Highway 236.  Right on Highway 236 to
Hiway 9 in Boulder Creek.  Another short break in Boulder Creek (gas,
if needed), then up Highway 9 (east) to Skyline, where we assemble at
the little rest area there for a final meeting.  After our meeting and
bull session, the group breaks up and everyone is on their own.  Hope
you can find your way home from there!

			- Michael -
--
Michael Nelson                          nelson@seahunt.imat.com
San Francisco, CA                           FAX: 1-415-621-2608
=======================================================================

Directions to Wong Chiropractic:

>From San Francisco (or north of Redwood City):

     Go south on Hwy 280 (pass Hwy 92 exit, go another 10 minutes).
     Exit Woodside Road (Hwy 84) - turn left off the exit - you'll be going
     east on Woodside.
     About 1 1/2 miles on your right, on the corner of San Carlos Ave and
     Woodside.
     You'll see a new 2 story building with West Coast Video on the bottom.
     Park on the street, you'll see all the bikes.  Dr. Wong's office is
     upstairs above the video store.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

>From the South Bay:

     Go north on Hwy 280, and take the Woodside Road (Hwy 84) exit and 
     turn right, heading east on Woodside road.
     About 1 1/2 miles on your right, on the corner of San Carlos Ave and
     Woodside.
     You'll see a new 2 story building with West Coast Video on the bottom.
     Park on the street, you'll see all the bikes.  Dr. Wong's office is
     upstairs above the video store.
     
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Background info on Dr. Wong:

Fourteen years in chiropractic practice and educator in this field.  I've
hosted the TV show:  "Feeling Good with Dr. Wong", the radio show:  "Ask Dr.
Wong" and have
spoken and taught at the local colleges.  I'm also a speaker for the National
Safety Council and board certified by both the National and State Boards of
Chiropractic Examiners.  I've written and published two papers on
chiropractic technique and guest lectured at various seminars around the
country.  

My interest in the health and wellness field (chiropractic) naturally spilled

over into my enjoyment of motorcycles.  I found that here too I could 
improve the wellness (skills) of other riders and prevent diseases
(injuries).  So it was natural for me to start and host these riding clinics.

I currently do: Sport Riding, Sport Touring, Dual Purpose Riding, and
Dirt-Enduros.
And plan to do Trials riding, Motocross and Flat-tracking.

__________________________________________________________________


     Wong Chiropractic
     1391 Woodside Road, Suite 200
     Redwood City, CA 94061

     (415) 365-7775

Doc  (DOCWONG@AOL.Com)
===========================================================================











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From mudpuppy@gibbs.oit.unc.edu Thu May  4 10:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: New battery -- $$$!

> $100 sure seems like a lot of money just for a battery.  Any comments?

It is a lot, but it is fairly common for bikes.  My local Sam's Club had 
a bunch of moto batteries for around 30-50 dollars, and even Walmart had 
some, but none would fit the bike I was looking for at the time.  I ended 
up getting a "non-OEM" battery from a local dealer, and it 

a) didn't fit quite right (was slightly larger in 1 direction)

b) didn't last very long.

It's your money.  For 30 bucks I'd be willing to give it a shot, if you 
can find the cheap ones.  Good luck.

Phil


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From Gumby647@aol.com Thu May  4 11:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Fwd: gearing

   Where it says "old" read "worn". Old sprockets aren't bad worn
ones are.

                                                               Gumby

---------------------
Forwarded message:
From: CYNTHIA@diablo.adm.clarkson.edu (CYNTHIA)
To: hawkgt@dsea.com
Date: 95-05-04 13:10:41 EDT

> From:           sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Rich Sturges)
> Subject:        Re: gearing
> Copies to:      hawkgt@dsea.com

>         Two thoughts- cheap chains wear quickly.
>What's cheap what isn't?                       

new chain on old sprockets will wear quickly too.

Why is this?? I'm looking at a used bike which has been stored 
outside uncovered (unthinkable to me but...) the chain nedds to be 
replaced from the look of it (4,000mi._ heavily rusted but the 
spocket I thought would be OK.. 

Your thoughts.

CJ
 



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From Gumby647@aol.com Thu May  4 11:21 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Tires

     Mike,

  (is everyone on this list named Mike?)

    The MEZ1s should last longer than 3k, more like 7 or 8k. The
bias ply Metzlers are good tires too. ME33 comp-K front and ME1
comp-k rear is a very good setup that will wear well and offer good
traction in the wet. Also the bias ply tires seem to fit on the narrow
front wheel better.

                                                     Gumby


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From Doug_Wiebe@NeXT.COM Thu May  4 11:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Doc Wong's clinic June 4

> if memory serves he is the leading moto-related injury Dr.

You're thinking of Dr. Ting, who has treated several famous moto racers, most
recently (last winter) Mick Doohan for follow-on treatment of Mick's 1992
leg injury. Dr. Ting works out of Sequoia Hospital in Redwood City, CA.

Dr. Wong is a chiropractor, also in Redwood City, CA.


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From Seaskiff@aol.com Thu May  4 15:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Request addition to list

Dear folks,
      Kindly add me to your Honda Hawk list. I am a real fan. 
 
V-twins  are the answer. When will we get a new Super-Hawk?

                                          David Dean


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From GTRider9@aol.com Thu May  4 18:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: F2 front wheel

I tell you what, DC, if I had bought a '93/'94 CBR1000 wheel back in '91 when
I had my stock wheel widened, that would indeed have been quite a trick!
 Besides, I haven't had real good luck with junkyard parts over the
years--too much stuff that was supposed to have been good turned out to be
bent or broken.  You only have to get stuck a couple of times to wipe out all
the money you saved over buying new.

Dave 


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From GTRider9@aol.com Thu May  4 18:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: New battery -- $$$!

Pam:
Try calling the next nearest Honda dealer.  The Honda dealership I work for
(in Colorado) sells the Yuasa battery for $78.95  and the MAXI (generic
brand, also available through American Honda,) for $59.95.  Check around!
Dave


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From GTRider9@aol.com Thu May  4 18:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: New battery -- $$$!

Pam again: 
By the way, I bought my '88 Hawk in the summer of '90 and I'm still running
the original battery.  I always charge it a couple of times through the
winter, and in the spring (right about now in fact,) I put it on the charger
for about three solid days.  These maintenance-free batteries sometimes don't
start charging until they've been cooking for a while.  And of course, NEVER
USE A CAR-BATTERY CHARGER!!  A charge rate of over 1 ampere will boil the
battery acid and break up the plates.  Hitting really huge potholes can also
kill a battery by breaking it up internally.

Good Luck!
Dave


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From ddc10@columbia.edu Thu May  4 22:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: F2 front wheel

> > BTW- I do happen to know that the CBR1000 wheel does bolt into the stock 
> > front end without any problem, much like an F2 wheel.
> 
> Will the Hawk disc bolt onto it? One reason I'm looking into getting an F2
> wheel is because I've heard the hawk disk will bolt right on. 
> 
Yes it will.  the CBR1000 wheel will accept the Hawk rotor with no mods, 
and I think it looks infintely cooler.

DC



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From ddc10@columbia.edu Thu May  4 22:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: New battery -- $$$!

>      First, I tried Dennis Kirk.  The Yuasa battery listed in the '94
> catalog for the Hawk is $79.99.  Well, turns out that's "no longer
> available from the factory."  

> $100 sure seems like a lot of money just for a battery.  Any comments?
> 
I just had to jump in here on this one...

As usual, Dennis Kirk is lying through their teeth to cover the fact 
that they don't have a popular item in stock.  The Yuasa YTX-9BS, which 
is the Hawk's battery, also fits (among many others) all CBR600's, ZX7's, 
older GSXR's, most current 4-wheelers, and too many other models to 
mention, very much like the PH6017 oil filter.

Unfortunately, that battery is VERY expensive.  Your dealer pays 
something like $69 for it, so he has very little leeway to give you a break.

Just my .005 yen's worth...
DC



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From mudpuppy@gibbs.oit.unc.edu Fri May  5 15:05 PDT 1995
Subject: My Tires Arrived


Competition Accessories told me that my tires were "at another warehouse,
but they'll be at your house in about 2 weeks."  I said "You're not handing
me a line are you?" and the guy said "I wouldn't intentionally hand anyone
a line, I'm just telling you what my computer tells me".

So, I hung up thinking, "yeah, right, they're backordered till Christmas."

Well, they arrived in less than a week, yesterday.

I bought a MEZ1 front (110/80) and a MEZ2 rear (160/60) and the total bill
was just under $208.

Just thought others might like to know.  I was very pleased with the service.

Any tricks I need to know about getting them mounted?  I'm taking them to
the most recommended place, but they may not have dealt with a rear wheel
like the Hawk's before...

Ciao,

Phil Calvin     DoD #242      Had: '78 RD400, '78 DT175, '85 RZ350, '81
R80G/S
Yes, it _is_ an obsession.   Have: '75 TY250, '78 DT125, '78 GT80,  '91
HawkGT




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From jesse@acl1.physics.gatech.edu Fri May  5 19:05 PDT 1995
Subject: (no subject)


Thanks.

-- 
Jesse S.A. Bridgewater

jesse@acl1.physics.gatech.edu




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From BarnettD@aol.com Fri May  5 20:05 PDT 1995
Subject: ignition switch

just a quick question.  on the ignition switch, there's "on," "off," "p," and
"lock."  Both the "p" and "lock" position lock the forks.  What's the diff.
between the two?

-d



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From goodmat@freenet.columbus.oh.us Fri May  5 20:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Tires

On Thu, 4 May 1995, Mike DiTullio Loral FSC (609-485-7828) wrote:

> It seems that metzler mez2's are on backorder from metzler until sept., so
> what's the next best tire, keeping in mind that I don't want to have to buy
> a new tire every 3,000 miles.

Try the Michelin 89x's. They stick well (no problems at a track school)
and have decent mileage (if you don't count the rear I had to replace at
3k due to a puncture). I have about 6 k on the front.

Matt/OH




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From goodmat@freenet.columbus.oh.us Fri May  5 21:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: ignition switch

On Fri, 5 May 1995 BarnettD@aol.com wrote:

> just a quick question.  on the ignition switch, there's "on," "off," "p," and
> "lock."  Both the "p" and "lock" position lock the forks.  What's the diff.
> between the two?

The "P" position leaves the tail light on. I stands for park I think. Be
careful you don't leave it in this position for a very long time, or
you'll be bump-starting the bike!

Matt/OH




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From ecarrico@spl.lib.wa.us Fri May  5 22:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: ignition switch

I'm too lazy to go to the garage, but one of them leaves the tail light 
on.  I believe it's the "p" which stands for "park" and is supposed to 
make the bike visible when you are stopped by the side of the road.  This 
means that if you aren't careful (I _wonder_ how I know this?) you can 
end up with a drained battery very easily.

Ellen
'89 NRR (Nearly Reconstructed Red)

"Ya know, this doesn't suck at all." 	Francesca sitting in the sun at 
					McCain valley

On Fri, 5 May 1995 BarnettD@aol.com wrote:

> just a quick question.  on the ignition switch, there's "on," "off," "p," and
> "lock."  Both the "p" and "lock" position lock the forks.  What's the diff.
> between the two?
> 
> -d
> 
> 



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From GTRider9@aol.com Fri May  5 23:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: ignition switch

d:
The difference?  The difference shows up the next day.  Use L and you ride;
use P and you walk.  P (Park) leaves your taillight on.


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From mudpuppy@gibbs.oit.unc.edu Sat May  6 08:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: ignition switch


Barnett said:

> just a quick question.  on the ignition switch, there's "on," "off," "p," and
> "lock."  Both the "p" and "lock" position lock the forks.  What's the diff.
> between the two?

Try it at night.  P leaves the rear light on.  I did it once 
(unknowingly) during the day.  

For the record, you _can_ bump start a Hawk with a dead battery....

Phil


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From KawaNinja5@aol.com Sat May  6 10:35 PDT 1995
Subject: HawkGT discussion list

Please add my name to the Hawk GT list.

KawaNinja5@aol.com

Thank you


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From Victor.A.King@dartvax.dartmouth.edu Sat May  6 17:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: My Tires Arrived

--- Phil Calvin wrote:
Well, they arrived in less than a week, yesterday.

I bought a MEZ1 front (110/80) and a MEZ2 rear (160/60) and the total bill
was just under $208.

Just thought others might like to know.  I was very pleased with the service.

Any tricks I need to know about getting them mounted?  I'm taking them to
the most recommended place, but they may not have dealt with a rear wheel
like the Hawk's before...
--- end of quoted material ---


Well i got mine in a week from chapparall (sp?)...
total was @165$

mounting 'em was what put it over 200$ at 25$/ wheel.


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From jel@walker.com Sun May  7 15:20 PDT 1995
Subject: F2 front end questions

     
     Well, I started putting the F2 front end on my Hawk this weekend
     and have a couple of questions:
     
     1. The little "nubs" on the bottom of the clip-ons that are supposed
        to prevent the clip-ons from rotating to much one way or another
        seem to be in the wrong place.  Should I worry about this?  It
        seems like if I position the clip-ons where I would expect them
        to be, the nubs will "stop" against the bolts that hold the
        instrument cluster down.
     
     2. Regarding the torque values for the upper/lower triple clamps,
        should I use the recommended values for the Hawk or the F2?
        The recommended torque for the lower clamp on a Hawk is 36 ft-lbs,
        whereas the F2 is 29 ft-lbs.  Do you think this is a function of
        the clamp or what is being clamped?
     
     3. I didn't notice this when I removed my stock wheel but the is
        a small "tab" in the speedometer cable housing that is apparently
        supposed to line up with a tab on the forks.  Is the tab on the
        forks supposed to sit on top of the tab of the speedo housing?
        In front of it?  Behind it?
     
     Jeff



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From greaney@ee.unr.edu Sun May  7 18:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: F2 front end questions

>      Well, I started putting the F2 front end on my Hawk this weekend
>      and have a couple of questions:
>      
>      1. The little "nubs" on the bottom of the clip-ons that are supposed
>         to prevent the clip-ons from rotating to much one way or another
>         seem to be in the wrong place.  Should I worry about this?  It
>         seems like if I position the clip-ons where I would expect them
>         to be, the nubs will "stop" against the bolts that hold the
>         instrument cluster down.

Saw them off, or grind them down.  It's easy to do, and they're
not terribly important (I had to do this when I put them
on my Hawk as well.  The Hawk triples don't have the same 
configuration as the F2, so the pins don't match up).

>      2. Regarding the torque values for the upper/lower triple clamps,
>         should I use the recommended values for the Hawk or the F2?
>         The recommended torque for the lower clamp on a Hawk is 36 ft-lbs,
>         whereas the F2 is 29 ft-lbs.  Do you think this is a function of
>         the clamp or what is being clamped?

Use the Hawk values.  Without the locator pin, it could rotate easier,
so you need a bit more pressure. 

>      3. I didn't notice this when I removed my stock wheel but the is
>         a small "tab" in the speedometer cable housing that is apparently
>         supposed to line up with a tab on the forks.  Is the tab on the
>         forks supposed to sit on top of the tab of the speedo housing?
>         In front of it?  Behind it?

This I dunno.  Sorry.


Good luck, and let us know what happens when you're done!

Mike



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From BarnettD@aol.com Sun May  7 21:35 PDT 1995
Subject: "P" walk

Thanks for all the info re: the ignition switch.  I think that   GTRider9
said it best as "use P you walk, L you ride."  That pretty much sums it up.
 I walked out one morning to find my (new) $100 battery totally dead.  Now I
know why.  Thanks for all the help.

-d


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From carolync@fsg.com Mon May  8 07:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Bump starting? (was: Re: ignition switch)

> Barnett said:
> 
> > just a quick question.  on the ignition switch, there's "on," "off," "p," and
> > "lock."  Both the "p" and "lock" position lock the forks.  What's the diff.
> > between the two?
> 
> Try it at night.  P leaves the rear light on.  I did it once 
> (unknowingly) during the day.  
> 
> For the record, you _can_ bump start a Hawk with a dead battery....
> 
> Phil
> 
I have heard about this in theory but haven't done it or seen it
done. perhaps a quick 'how to', and how well it works, if that's
not too much off-topic? (i feel more secure w/the CB550 which has
a kick start plus electric; been lucky w/the hawk so far...)

thanks
Carolyn
carolync@fsg.com
'89 Hawk GT  '77 CB550K


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From rawlins@cig.mot.com Mon May  8 07:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Bump starting? (was: Re: ignition switch)

> 
> > Barnett said:
	.
	.
	.
> > For the record, you _can_ bump start a Hawk with a dead battery....
> > 
> > Phil
> > 
> I have heard about this in theory but haven't done it or seen it
> done. perhaps a quick 'how to', and how well it works, if that's
> not too much off-topic? (i feel more secure w/the CB550 which has
> a kick start plus electric; been lucky w/the hawk so far...)
> 
> thanks
> Carolyn
> carolync@fsg.com
> '89 Hawk GT  '77 CB550K
> 

Carolyn,

It's pretty simple really.

- Turn on the ignition.
- Turn on the fuel petcock.
- Check the kill switch.
- Put the bike in second gear.
- Pull in the clutch and push the bike forward as fast as you can.
- Jump up on the seat and quickly let out on the clutch (pop the
  clutch) as your butt hits the seat.  At the same time give the
  bike a little gas.
- Repeat as necessary until the bike starts.

It also helps to have a hill around to roll the bike down.

Remember to jump on the bike before popping the clutch or one of
two bad things is going to happen.  Either the back tire will skid
or the bike will start and pull it'self right out of your hands.

BTW
If I can bump start an FJ1200 with 60 pounds of luggage on level ground
(I'm 5'5" 148lbs), then almost anyone can bump start a hawk.


Rob Rawlins     (rawlins@cig.mot.com)           90 Yamaha FJ1200
                                                90 Honda  HawkGT
DoD# 1172                                       81 Suzuki PE400


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From Victor.A.King@dartvax.dartmouth.edu Mon May  8 07:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Bump starting? (was: Re: ignition switch)

--- Carolyn Cullen wrote:
> For the record, you _can_ bump start a Hawk with a dead battery....
> 
> Phil
> 
I have heard about this in theory but haven't done it or seen it
done. perhaps a quick 'how to', and how well it works, if that's
not too much off-topic? (i feel more secure w/the CB550 which has
a kick start plus electric; been lucky w/the hawk so far...)

thanks
Carolyn
carolync@fsg.com
'89 Hawk GT  '77 CB550K
--- end of quoted material ---
Carolyn,

 for those of us who dont have a set of rollers to bump off a car wheel, it is
actually pretty easy.  
I had to bump mine this season, and btw the battery has been perfect ever since
inspite of being totally depleated.
What i was surprised at was that i bump started it out of storage.
	the concept is basic:  get the bike moving, put it in gear with the
clutch lever pulled and the ignition on, and engage the clutch.  This should
start it.  
	But with a bike as light as the hawk, the back wheel tends to lock
instead of getting past the initial compression, esp if just out of storage.
	If you have a good down hill or a friend who can push really fast, try
using second gear to get around this.  
	IF it still locks, thats where the "bump" in bump start comes in.  as
you engage the clutch, stand up on the pegs and jump down on the back seat at
the moment of engagement.  This should increase the weight on the back wheel
and prevent it from locking.  This worked for me but can be tricky when you
miss the timing and end up sittng on the back seat of the hawk, a little off
balance, heading down a hill, with the back locked and sliding off to the side. 
make sure to pull in on the clutch if and when you lock up--ie dont panic, you
shouldnt be moving fast enough for a highside.  (hopefully!)
	It occurs to me that doing this with a friend on the back would give
the extra weight needed.   This probably isnt done because the third who has to
push would have to be jack lalang (sp?) to get you moving fast enough.  and i
think he's retired.  
	I suppose the friend could always push push push grab and jump for it. 
choose a friend with at least amateur training in bobsled or luge, just to keep
things simple.
	Sorry for the long post.
	Good luck!

Sasha
88 bleu


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From mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil Mon May  8 09:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Bump starting? (was: Re: ignition switch)

>	I suppose the friend could always push push push grab and jump for it. 
>choose a friend with at least amateur training in bobsled or luge, just to keep
>things simple.

A bobsledder would be good, but a luge start would require _really_ long arms.

David Mackintosh                '82 245 Turbo  '92 Sovereign  '89 Hawk GT
mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil            Germantown, MD, USA       DoD #1360



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From James.C.Monberg@dartvax.dartmouth.edu Mon May  8 10:06 PDT 1995
Subject: subscription

Hi there!

This is my second attempt at subscribing to this list. Robert Meyer was kind
enough to inform me of the proper procedure after my first try...at any rate my
address is:

james.c.monberg@dartmouth.edu

I'd really appreciate being added to the list. Thanks!

jamie


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From goetze@aps.anl.gov Mon May  8 14:50 PDT 1995
Subject: HawkGT archives ...

Hi, I'm a Hawk owner and would be interested in looking at your mailing
list archives.  Are they available via ftp?  Thanks,

Kurt Goetze   goetze@aps.anl.gov


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From GEARNUT@aol.com Mon May  8 20:05 PDT 1995
Subject: HAWKGT: Honda Hawk Discussion

Dear Sir:

Thanks for providing info. on the Hawk. As a lover of twins, both parallel
and vee, I've always taken an interest in Honda's Hawk. The bike, especially
the motor,  is one of Honda's better designs, at least in my opinion, even if
it wasn't a big success.

 At least what it has amounted to is this: a cult machine. The owners I've
run into swear by, and not at, their machines. They like its handling, the
torque, and the fact that it's not too hard to work on. The fact that Honda
discontinued it, makes everyone mad, but not angry enough to get rid of the
machine. The last due to Honda's good part inventory.

Now, you ask, why am I writing to you? Although I own a bike, it's not a
Hawk... just an old 75 CB-360T.  This is a machine for cheapskates like me
who yearn for better, but are held back by bills, family and a generally thin
wallet. A Hawk is a good looking alternative to other machines.

I would like to address these questions to you is: how reliable is the
machine? 

What are frequent maintenace woes,ie: forks, cam chain tensioners, oiling
system?

Finally, what is the market price for a good used one, a fair one and a
basket case (blown motor), not wrecked?

Well thanks for the opportunity to respond. I hope this isn't too much
trouble to get an answer

thanks again

Gilbert J. Solorzano via AOL


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From GTRider9@aol.com Mon May  8 22:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Bump starting? (was: Re: ...

Carolyn:
For the record, I frequently bump-start my bikes when they have been sitting
for a while.  I do this mainly because I want to avoid running the battery
down any further than it already is, but there are two other advantages: 1)
Pushing the bike creates more vacuum to the carbs (because the engine is
turning over faster than when you use the starter) hence drawing fuel/air
mixture more effectively, and 2) There is more voltage available to the
ignition system when it isn't all being consumed by the starter motor (which
has much lower electrical resistance.) This is the main reason you can still
kick-start your CB550 even when it won't start with the button.  

Keep in mind that you should NOT bump start your bike with a dead battery
EXCEPT IN AN EMERGENCY!  Doing so causes your charging system to run at
maximum output for an extended period of time, and can be very hard on some
rather expensive components.  ALWAYS bring a dead battery up with a
motorcycle-type charger if at all possible before starting the bike.  

By the way, I use the sissy method of bump-starting, which is to put the bike
in top gear, push the bike downhill with the clutch in and the key on, and
let out the clutch when a suitable (i.e. reasonably brisk) speed has been
reached.  Be ready to pull in the clutch when the bike starts, although in
top gear the bike cannot run away with you.  And of course, don't forget to
deploy the stand before you let go of the  bike and catch your breath!!

Dave


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From greaney@ee.unr.edu Tue May  9 10:06 PDT 1995
Subject: Add another pony to the stable...


Unfortunately, the RC31 project has been put on indefinite hold
for the FZR project.  I've just acquired an '88 FZR 1000 at a 
reasonable cost, for touring and long 2-up hauls.  

If there's any interest in the Hawk, I'm still considering selling
it, although it has become much less imperative now than it was
a few weeks back.  I'd even consider doing the RC31 conversion
first then selling it, if the buyer wishes (only for fun, tho, 
because I've yet to do this to a Hawk).


Anyway...


Mike


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From gennari@universe.net.hawaii.edu Tue May  9 17:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Jet kits?

Hi all,

Just wanted to thank everyone who responded to my question about
jet kits. I think I'll stick with what I have for now. :)

Aloha,
Scott Gennari
gennari@Hawaii.Edu


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From marty@carter.ca.boeing.com Wed May 10 14:35 PDT 1995
Subject: MVR Pipe for sale

Brand new MVR (Mike Velasco Racing) Pipe for sale.
Still in box.  List is 479.00

I'll take 375.00 Firm.  Seattle
--
see ya!

Marty Capadona              marty@carter.ca.boeing.com



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From jel@walker.com Wed May 10 15:21 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: MVR Pipe for sale

     Anyone know what the sound level difference is between this pipe
     and the TBR pipe?   Can anyone comment on the sound level of this
     pipe?  Ear splitter?  Loud - need ear plugs?  Loud - no ear plugs
     necessary?
     
     Jeff


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: MVR Pipe for sale
Author:  Marty Capadona  at INTERNET
Date:    5/10/95 2:40 PM


Brand new MVR (Mike Velasco Racing) Pipe for sale. 
Still in box.  List is 479.00
     
I'll take 375.00 Firm.  Seattle
--
see ya!
     
Marty Capadona              marty@carter.ca.boeing.com
     



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From AMamet@aol.com Wed May 10 16:05 PDT 1995
Subject: honda hawk gt info

please send me some information on the honda hawk gt.
i am an owner and am interested in products and news.

                                           amamet@aol.com


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From Danny.Coady@NCR.OTTWPO.dfo-mpo.x400.gc.ca Thu May 11 06:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Hawk GT mailing list

I would like to be included in the Honda Hawk GT mailing list.  
My E-Mail address is

Danny.Coady@ncr.ottwpo.dfo-mpo.x400.gc.ca

Info:
Danny Coady
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada

If you have any problems with the above address please contact me by e-mail at ak422@freenet.carleton.ca.


Thanks
Dan...


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From WhiteWorm@aol.com Thu May 11 07:35 PDT 1995
Subject: RVF400

The guys at Chafong racing in Florida said that they do a RVF400 fairing job
on the Hawk and it is better looking than the RC series.


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From MGault1673@aol.com Thu May 11 12:50 PDT 1995
Subject: subscribing

sir:
    i have just recently purchused a 1989 hawk gt and i am finding out that
it is a rareity.  i am very interested in recieving and talking to other
people that have this wonderful bike.  i would be very happy if you would
enclude me in your group


                                                          thanks  MIKE GAULT


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From TREVOR.J.BLOHM@slchicago.infonet.com Thu May 11 13:35 PDT 1995
Subject: SUBSCRIPTION

     i would like to join the hawk gt mailing list.  my name is Trevor 
     Blohm, and my address is trevor.j.blohm@slchicago.infonet.com 
     i do not own a hawk yet, but hope to in the very near future.
     
     thanks, 
     Trevor


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From cscops2@cscops2.Ebay.Sun.COM Thu May 11 15:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: RVF400


> From WhiteWorm@aol.com  Thu May 11 07:47:28 1995
> From: WhiteWorm@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 10:33:35 -0400
> To: hawkgt@dsea.com
> Subject: RVF400
> Content-Length: 134
> 
> The guys at Chafong racing in Florida said that they do a RVF400 fairing job
> on the Hawk and it is better looking than the RC series.
> 


How much? Do they sell a kit w/lights, brackets ...? Will it accomodate aftermarket
parts, ie: clip ons, pipes, etc...? Full or Half?  Details man details!!!

Kev-


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From kpmarie@binc.net Thu May 11 16:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Subscription Request

I'd like to receive the Hawk GT mailing list--I just bought one, but
have hurt my back so I can't ride at all.  But I'd like to hear what
other owners say about the bike.  My email address is:

kpmarie@binc.net

Thank you!!

Kathy



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From timcook@erinet.com Thu May 11 17:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Hawk mailing list

I have a 1978 Honda CB400T hawk and would like to get as much info as 
possible.. my e-mail is: timcook@erinet.com

Thanks,
Tim Cook


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From lexa@austin.cc.tx.us Thu May 11 21:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Newsletter

Somebody tild me that you would put me on the membership if I asked nicely.
So...Please put me on your newsletter list.  

Thanks-

Bill Jones

e-mail  Lexa@austin.cc.tx.us




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From jbdw@wam.umd.edu Fri May 12 23:35 PDT 1995
Subject: mailing list...

I'm interested in subscribing to this mailing list. Please tell me what I 
need to do.

Thanks in advance,

--
Jonathan Banks
jbdw@wam.umd.edu



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From gofast@panix.com Sat May 13 08:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Mailing List

Hey,

My GF rides a Hawk GT and we do *some* of the wrenching here.

Would you please add me to the mailing list?

Thanks, ride safe.....

brad 
gofast@panix.com

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From: Frank Evan Perdicaro 
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Having been away from the list, California, the United States, etc. 
for a month, I am soon to return.  

Only 657k of email to read.  

I read some of HawkGT.  

WRT tanks.  I have plan, a real one, for larger steel tanks.  After
a year's waffling, and being turned down by many tank fab places,
and having a mule to work with, and having done drawings and measurements,
I am working on a forming buck for new steel tanks!

This is a non-trivial step that will eventually result in HawkGT tanks 
similar to the new Euro CB500, with about a 5 gallon capacity.

The forming tools are on the way by UPS.  I have a welder lined up
to do final assembly, and a sealing place to make sure the tanks do 
not leak, and a autobody place to smooth and paint the results.

Do not ask for price or schedule; I do not have any.  

More on this later.

While in Berlin, I checked the VFR 400 tank;  It does not fit a 
HawkGT.  Too bad.

Frank Evan Perdicaro 			Dainippon Screen Engineering of America
Legalize guns, drugs and cash...today.	   3700 Segerstrom Ave
inhouse: frank@server, x210		      Santa Ana CA
outhouse: frank@dsea.com, 714-546-9491x210	 92704       DoD:1097



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Having been away from the list, California, the United States, etc. 
for a month, I am soon to return.  

Only 657k of email to read.  

I read some of HawkGT.  

WRT tanks.  I have plan, a real one, for larger steel tanks.  After
a year's waffling, and being turned down by many tank fab places,
and having a mule to work with, and having done drawings and measurements,
I am working on a forming buck for new steel tanks!

This is a non-trivial step that will eventually result in HawkGT tanks 
similar to the new Euro CB500, with about a 5 gallon capacity.

The forming tools are on the way by UPS.  I have a welder lined up
to do final assembly, and a sealing place to make sure the tanks do 
not leak, and a autobody place to smooth and paint the results.

Do not ask for price or schedule; I do not have any.  

More on this later.

While in Berlin, I checked the VFR 400 tank;  It does not fit a 
HawkGT.  Too bad.

Frank Evan Perdicaro 			Dainippon Screen Engineering of America
Legalize guns, drugs and cash...today.	   3700 Segerstrom Ave
inhouse: frank@server, x210		      Santa Ana CA
outhouse: frank@dsea.com, 714-546-9491x210	 92704       DoD:1097



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Having been away from the list, California, the United States, etc. 
for a month, I am soon to return.  

Only 657k of email to read.  

I read some of HawkGT.  

WRT tanks.  I have plan, a real one, for larger steel tanks.  After
a year's waffling, and being turned down by many tank fab places,
and having a mule to work with, and having done drawings and measurements,
I am working on a forming buck for new steel tanks!

This is a non-trivial step that will eventually result in HawkGT tanks 
similar to the new Euro CB500, with about a 5 gallon capacity.

The forming tools are on the way by UPS.  I have a welder lined up
to do final assembly, and a sealing place to make sure the tanks do 
not leak, and a autobody place to smooth and paint the results.

Do not ask for price or schedule; I do not have any.  

More on this later.

While in Berlin, I checked the VFR 400 tank;  It does not fit a 
HawkGT.  Too bad.

Frank Evan Perdicaro 			Dainippon Screen Engineering of America
Legalize guns, drugs and cash...today.	   3700 Segerstrom Ave
inhouse: frank@server, x210		      Santa Ana CA
outhouse: frank@dsea.com, 714-546-9491x210	 92704       DoD:1097



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From: Frank Evan Perdicaro 
Message-Id: <199505221646.JAA08611@server.eng.dsea.com>
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Subject: I am soon to return
Content-Length: 1164


Having been away from the list, California, the United States, etc. 
for a month, I am soon to return.  

Only 657k of email to read.  

I read some of HawkGT.  

WRT tanks.  I have plan, a real one, for larger steel tanks.  After
a year's waffling, and being turned down by many tank fab places,
and having a mule to work with, and having done drawings and measurements,
I am working on a forming buck for new steel tanks!

This is a non-trivial step that will eventually result in HawkGT tanks 
similar to the new Euro CB500, with about a 5 gallon capacity.

The forming tools are on the way by UPS.  I have a welder lined up
to do final assembly, and a sealing place to make sure the tanks do 
not leak, and a autobody place to smooth and paint the results.

Do not ask for price or schedule; I do not have any.  

More on this later.

While in Berlin, I checked the VFR 400 tank;  It does not fit a 
HawkGT.  Too bad.

Frank Evan Perdicaro 			Dainippon Screen Engineering of America
Legalize guns, drugs and cash...today.	   3700 Segerstrom Ave
inhouse: frank@server, x210		      Santa Ana CA
outhouse: frank@dsea.com, 714-546-9491x210	 92704       DoD:1097




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From James.C.Monberg@dartvax.dartmouth.edu Mon May 15 12:50 PDT 1995
Subject: PLEASE!!?

Hello??

Anyone out there? I emailed my subscription some time ago and have had yet to
hear back :(. I realize this list may be manually administered but is there
anyway my subscription might be expedited? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!!

Jamie

monberg@dartmouth.edu


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From James.C.Monberg@dartvax.dartmouth.edu Mon May 15 12:50 PDT 1995
Subject: supertrapp disks?


Excuse me if this questioned has been asked and answered already...


what is the consensus on #disks in the Supertrapp w/stock jetting?? BTW, I'd
like to keep things as quiet as reasonably possible...

Also, how difficult would it be to rejet cheaply and effectively??

I really appreciate the help! Please include me when (and if) you reply as the
kotl seems to be awol :)

Thanks!!

jamie   


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From PhAstie@aol.com Mon May 15 13:20 PDT 1995
Subject: subscription

Would please politely add me to the hawk mailing list ? own a blue 86 650

TY


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From sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil Mon May 15 13:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: supertrapp disks?

>what is the consensus on #disks in the Supertrapp w/stock jetting?? BTW, I'd
>like to keep things as quiet as reasonably possible...

    The number of disks is determined by the noise you want... If you want a
fairly quiet bike you're looking at around 4-5 disks. I run a bunch of
discs, and took the air box top off. My neighbors hate me, but then my hawk
is my 'quiet' bike. 


>Also, how difficult would it be to rejet cheaply and effectively??

    It's free at that level. Just raise the needles a mm or so. Also, you
may want to play with the slow speed mixture screws to get smooth throttle
perf. just off-idle.


>I really appreciate the help! Please include me when (and if) you reply as the
>kotl seems to be awol :)

    Huh? works fine for me.



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From lacey@dsea.com Mon May 15 14:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: supertrapp disks?

>>I really appreciate the help! Please include me when (and if) you reply as the
>>kotl seems to be awol :)
>
>    Huh? works fine for me.

The list mostly runs itself :-)
The KOTL only intercedes when necessary!


*************************************************************************
* THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY  *       Dan Lacey ( lacey@dsea.com )        *
*                           *       Dainippon Screen Eng. of America    *
* LEFT BLANK                *       3700 W. Segerstrom Ave.             *
*                           *       Santa Ana, CA. 92704                *
*************************************************************************




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From SYSPMS@UCSDMVSA.UCSD.EDU Wed May 17 13:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Hey, anyone

Just wanted to see if anyone is out there?  Haven't seen alot of mail
lately. Hope everyone didn't sell their bikes all at once.

Mike

'88 Bird of Pray


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From s.tan@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU Wed May 17 14:20 PDT 1995
Subject: WTB: Fuel Pump/Relay for '89 Hawk

Hi,
I am in desperate need for a fuel pump and relay for my '89 Hawk, but really 
can't afford to spend the $150 my local dealer is asking.  I remember 
someone posting miscellaneous parts for sale, but can't remember who.  
Anyway, if anyone out there can help, please mail me at 
s.tan@mail.utexas.edu.  Thanks.

Simon
Simon Tan
ldaj427@mcl.cc.utexas.edu



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From s.tan@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU Wed May 17 14:20 PDT 1995
Subject: WTB: Fuel Pump/Relay for '89 Hawk

I am in desperate need for a fuel pump and relay for my '89 Hawk, but really 
can't afford to spend the $150 my local dealer is asking.  If anyone out 
there has a bike that they're parting out, please mail me.  Thanks.

Simon
Simon Tan
ldaj427@mcl.cc.utexas.edu



------------------------------

From s.tan@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU Wed May 17 14:20 PDT 1995
Subject: WTB: Fuel Pump/Relay for '89 Hawk

I am in desperate need for a fuel pump and relay for my '89 Hawk, but really 
can't afford to spend the $150 my local dealer is asking.  I remember 
someone posting miscellaneous parts for sale, but can't remember who.  
Anyway, if anyone out there can help, please mail me at 
s.tan@mail.utexas.edu.  Thanks.

Simon
Simon Tan
ldaj427@mcl.cc.utexas.edu



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From CoachJim94@aol.com Wed May 17 14:20 PDT 1995
Subject: is this thing on?

Hey, is anybody out there? I have not gotten any mail since last Saturday. 
 
Have you seen the Yam TRX850 in the latest issue of Motorcyclist?
Everyone keeps saying it's a copy of Ducati's 900CR. I believe it's the
evolution of the Hawk GT. To bad Honda didn't think of it first.

Jim


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From Separis@aol.com Wed May 17 15:05 PDT 1995
Subject: subscription

I own an '89 GT ,and I would love to be included on the Hawk GT discussion
list. My address is Separis@aol.com.







































































































                                                                        Thank
you,Ken.


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From spatel@mcp.com Wed May 17 15:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Hey, anyone

     
     The weather must be good everywhere!!  Envious of everybody out 
     riding, while I am sitting around with a broken wrist watching the 
     mail.  Worse yet, I broke this stupid wrist in a cage, wish it was on 
     the Hawk atleast I would have been having some fun.. just kidding.
     
     Have fun!!
     
     Duke
     '89 Red
     15 days to freedom!! :))


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Hey, anyone
Author:  mike schwartz                         at 
Internet
Date:    5/17/95 12:56 PM


Just wanted to see if anyone is out there?  Haven't seen alot of mail 
lately. Hope everyone didn't sell their bikes all at once.
     
Mike
     
'88 Bird of Pray


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From giant!giant.IntraNet.com!steve@omega.IntraNet.com Wed May 17 16:05 PDT 1995
Subject: RE: is this thing on?

>Have you seen the Yam TRX850 in the latest issue of Motorcyclist?
>...I believe it's the evolution of the Hawk GT.

	From V-twin to a parallel twin is evolution?


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From cscops2@cscops2.Ebay.Sun.COM Wed May 17 16:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: is this thing on?


> Hey, is anybody out there? I have not gotten any mail since last Saturday. 
>  
> Have you seen the Yam TRX850 in the latest issue of Motorcyclist?
> Everyone keeps saying it's a copy of Ducati's 900CR. I believe it's the
> evolution of the Hawk GT. To bad Honda didn't think of it first.

   I think it is a great idea, and it's about time. However, based on  
   some of the early writeups on this bike, it is somewhat of a salvage
   project, in that many of it's parts came from previous production 
   models. Now in the motorcyclist writeup, they say the bike will be 
   priced comparably with the Ducati 900cr. In my opinion, I would expect
   it to be much cheaper for a couple of reasons. One,there was not as 
   much time/money spent developing new parts as a typical "new model".
   Actually this is not an original opinion, but one that I tend to agree
   with. Two, though it is low end, the CR's heritage makes it an exotic,
   and as such would hold it's value better than a mass produced japanese
   model.

   It sounds like a great bike, but I would be reluctant to spend $8000 
   on it. In any event, this all becomes moot if Yamaha decides not to
   offer it to the US market. 


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From Victor.A.King@dartvax.dartmouth.edu Wed May 17 16:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: WTB: Fuel Pump/Relay for '89 Hawk



Hey Simon,


are you in need of a fuel pump relay for your '89 hawk?

i just had this hunch.
;-)

S


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From ecarrico@spl.lib.wa.us Wed May 17 16:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Hey, anyone


On Wed, 17 May 1995, mike schwartz wrote:

> Just wanted to see if anyone is out there?  Haven't seen alot of mail
> lately. Hope everyone didn't sell their bikes all at once.
> 
Not only did I not sell my bike, she's (as Willie Nelson would say) back 
on the road again.  For those of you who don't know about it, I broke the 
frame on the Hawk last September during a very minor lowside.  Repairs 
had to wait for time and money, but with tremendous help from my friends 
she is now not just ridable but actually seems better than before. The 
vibration problems are MUCH less, and I'm not having the problems with 
numbness in my throttle hand any more (my mind is another matter entirely).

Here is my public thank you to some wonderful people (in mostly 
alphabetical order):

* Jim Broglio who is a remarkable wrench and better friend. Jim not only did 
  the rebuild, but he found me a good frame at a great price.
* Mark Alpen who pushed, shoved, encouraged, helped with the wheels, loaned 
  me bikes, and then held my hand while I rebuilt some of my riding 
  confidence.
* Kevin Burgess and Christian Owens who can always be counted on to either 
  take something apart (removing engines for instance) or put them back 
  together (forks).  These guys are also unstinting about spending time
  they don't really have to work on my bike.
* Keri Grassl (sp?) who leant me time, understanding, Jim's time (without 
  complaint), and Rosie.
* Ron Radko who keeps giving me parts from his race bike - tires, shifters 
  (on loan), footpeg (on loan) and even more importantly his time.
* WetLeather and the WLOBC who gave me endless encouragement and 
  sympathy (as well as food and homebrew).
* All the other friends from Hawk and Race who gave me a goal by writing
  about the great stuff they were doing with their bikes.

Now I just have to find the money for those shocks ...

Ellen Carrico			I always pass on good advice. It is the only
ecarrico@spl.lib.wa.us		thing to do with it. It is never of any use
'89 Red Rebuilt Riding Again!	to oneself.
							Oscar Wilde


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From JPlott@aol.com Wed May 17 17:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Hey, anyone

Duke...It is already too hot here in Florida to enjoy afternoon rides.  It
sounds like you are a military short timer.  I do hope that you keep up with
the Net after you get out. Good luck...keep us informed as to how you are
doing and where.

John
89 Red Hawk and a few more.
WERA #523, MSF instructor #1733


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From cscops2@cscops2.Ebay.Sun.COM Wed May 17 17:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Hey, anyone


 
> Duke...It is already too hot here in Florida to enjoy afternoon rides. 

   What?!?!?!?! I can't understand this concept at all. 
   Put on a wet t-shirt, and a wet bandana on your head. 
   Open all the vents on your riding gear, and go real
   fast. You become your own swamp cooler ;->

Kev-
   


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From ecarrico@spl.lib.wa.us Wed May 17 17:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: WTB: Fuel Pump/Relay for '89 Hawk



On 17 May 1995, Victor A. King wrote:
> 
> Hey Simon,
> are you in need of a fuel pump relay for your '89 hawk?
> 
> i just had this hunch.
> ;-)

Oh, I thought he wanted a _fuel_ pump relay.

Ellen Carrico			She is absolutely inadmissable into society.
ecarrico@spl.lib.wa.us		Many a woman has a past, but I am told that
'89 Red Hawk			she has at least a dozen, and that they
				all fit.  -- Oscar Wilde


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From Victor.A.King@dartvax.dartmouth.edu Wed May 17 18:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Spring stuff


A few words... now that we are all thirsting for some posts.

This spring in NH has sucked.  it was a lame winter (3? thaws) and now it is a
really late spring-- greenery only just came on line this past week.

but i have been having fun with my hawk, tho not enough.  i must say that the
late spring has given me the opportunity to learn a lot of sand riding
technique.  ahem.  fun.

but the new (not anymore, actually) MEZ's are really nice.  I have managed to
get knee-high stoppies w/o stainless brake lines, just about every time i try. 
it's a lot of fun.  

also, as it turns out the hawk wheelies in _second_ gear pretty well too.  just
keep the speed low and the revs high and the torque is just right.. which is a
lot easier to control than ones off the line--and i havent even rejetted yet.  

I am still saving up for a  TBR pipe.  Any word on the D&D being better?

and the twisties around here are soo nice..im going to have to buy some boots
with sliders on them.

btw, i was at louden the other weekend and had the pleasure of watching fellow
hawkstas (who clubs you, baby?) (tele sevalas (sp?) reference) Brian Heaven and
Dennis Crowley eat a midday meal of **you guessed it** flamed duck.  it was a
great time.

so if it would only stop raining.. i'll get back on the bike and stop wasting
bits o' bauds.
right then.
ride hard.
ride safe!

later, 
Sasha
88 bleu


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From goodmat@freenet.columbus.oh.us Wed May 17 20:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Hey, anyone

On Wed, 17 May 1995, mike schwartz wrote:

> '88 Bird of Pray
              ^^^^

Mike, you're not idolizing a false God are you? :)




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From goodmat@freenet.columbus.oh.us Wed May 17 20:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: is this thing on?

On Wed, 17 May 1995 CoachJim94@aol.com wrote:

> Have you seen the Yam TRX850 in the latest issue of Motorcyclist?
> Everyone keeps saying it's a copy of Ducati's 900CR. I believe it's the
> evolution of the Hawk GT. To bad Honda didn't think of it first.
> Jim

It's nice, but it doesn't get me fired up like I was when Honda first
introduced the Hawk. Maybe I just don't go for bikes other people like!!

Matt/OH




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From goodmat@freenet.columbus.oh.us Wed May 17 20:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: Spring stuff

On 17 May 1995, Victor A. King wrote:

> I am still saving up for a  TBR pipe.  Any word on the D&D being better?

I didn't know D&D made a pipe for the Hawk. Can you fill me in? (Where you
can get them, as well as looks, performance, etc).

Thanks

Matt/OH




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From Gumby647@aol.com Wed May 17 21:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: WTB: Fuel Pump/Relay for ...

   Simon,

  Have you priced a vacuum fuel pump. I think they are under $50

                                                               Gumby


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From CoachJim94@aol.com Thu May 18 15:35 PDT 1995
Subject: New tires finally!

  Last weekend I finally got my new tires, replacing the stock Bridgestones.
MEZ 1 front and MEZ 2 rear. All I can say is WOW! It's like a new bike. I am
by no means an experienced rider ( one year), but my confidence grew a bunch
last Saturday. 

 Thanks to all who gave me their advice on choosing the tires and the proper
sizes. This process started last fall.

 Jim


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From greaney@ee.unr.edu Thu May 18 21:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: New tires finally!

> 
>   Last weekend I finally got my new tires, replacing the stock Bridgestones.
> MEZ 1 front and MEZ 2 rear. All I can say is WOW! It's like a new bike. I am
> by no means an experienced rider ( one year), but my confidence grew a bunch
> last Saturday. 
> 

Congrats.  New tires can make a WORLD of difference.

BTW: I just got my MEZ1s, and I must agree: WOW!!!  Very sticky, and
they warm up nicely without fading or getting slick.  Great tires,
I highly recommend them.  160/60/17, 110/80/17



Mike


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From MEL1523@ACS.TAMU.EDU Fri May 19 15:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Those little shims under the needles


Well, the weather was sunny and pleasant today, so I decided to do a little 
experiment.  I am pretty happy with my current setup (TBR exhaust, K&N 
individual filters, 145/150 mains, 48 slows, 0.033" shims under the stock 
needles).  I decided to try taking out the shims, and leave everything else 
the same.  Wow, it was like having the old stock setup back.  It didn't 
misfire or anything, but it must have been close, because the loss in power 
was dramatic.  Needless to say, I called the experiment a failure, and put 
them back.  Mileage is relatively unaffected compared to stock.  I 
never have done a really fair test though.  I was worried about plug 
fouling, so I use a hotter plug (dpr7ea-9).  These stay pretty spotless.  
Just thought I'd let you all know that if you do any jetting, you should 
consider shimming the needles even with those big main jets.  

BTW, the 48 slow jets help alot in throttle response, and eliminate the 3000 
power dip.

Has anyone noticed that whoever was making the timing advance kits for the 
Hawks discontinued them?  I know they used to be made, but Chaparral and 
Dennis Kirk both said they are no longer available.  Can anyone confirm 
this?  I was going to do this, now that I have the jets pretty squared away.
I'd rather not buy the $XXXX.XX kit from TBR either.  

 - Mitch



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From MGault1673@aol.com Sun May 21 23:50 PDT 1995
Subject: help

help me.  i am in desperate need of after market parts. i have a 89 and i
love it but i need more power.  i cant find anything in the catalogs that i
have can somebody please help me.


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From mudpuppy@gibbs.oit.unc.edu Mon May 22 07:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: help--aftermarket parts

>help me.  i am in desperate need of after market parts. i have a 89 and i
>love it but i need more power.  i cant find anything in the catalogs that i
>have can somebody please help me.

Here's a start.

   Two Brothers Racing
   (714) 832-5504
   catalog available ("$1.00 but we can talk")

Pipes, jet kits, CDI boxes, fairings, and lots of other stuff.  For all
Hondas, not just the Hawk.

   Chafong
   3600 S. Congress Ave, Suite K
   Boynton Beach, FL 33426
   (407) 731-2626    (I haven't called yet.)

Advertises in mags as "Performance Hawk Parts"

Phil

Phil Calvin     DoD #242   '91 HawkGT
Env. Sci. and Eng., UNC-Chapel Hill




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From Gumby647@aol.com Mon May 22 15:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: help

   How much power do you want?
   How much are you willing to pay for it?
 
  I know what works. It's just a question of $$$.
           
                                                 Gumby
      


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From JPlott@aol.com Mon May 22 18:05 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: help

Check out TBR  (Two Brothers Racing) - They have all the "Help" you will ever
need or can afford for your Hawk.  Have fun with it.

John   89 Red Hawk


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From MGault1673@aol.com Mon May 22 20:20 PDT 1995
Subject: INTERESTED

I AM INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DONE TO THEIR HAWK, MOD.
WISE.  I JUST GOT MINE AND WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS UP WITH THIS GREAT BIKE


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From JPlott@aol.com Mon May 22 20:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: I am soon to return

Welcome back when you get here. We have missed your gentle "prodding" and
list removal.  I will not ask for the price and availability of the
tank....it sounds like you did more than a little investigation.  I will
state that "when you are ready"  I will be in line to purchase one.  Hell,  I
was even willing to pop for the carbon fiber.  I hope your trip was
productive in other areas as well!  I did part of my reasearch for D.Phil. in
Germany in late 60's and early 70's.  I hope you had as much fun as I did at
that time.   As he said, "See you on the Radio". 


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From GTRider9@aol.com Mon May 22 20:20 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: I am soon to return

Frank:
Now yer talkin'!!  Let us know how things progress!!

Dave


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From mnielsen@hprnd.rose.hp.com Tue May 23 09:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Help


Could someone please change my e-mail address from
greaney@ee.unr.edu to mnielsen@hprnd.rose.hp.com?

THanks,

Mike



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From TKLEYPAS@waint.tstc.edu Tue May 23 12:45 PDT 1995
Subject:       head gaskets

Have any of you Hawk riders or racers replaced the head gaskets on 
your Hawks ?  I'm wondering if the stock Honda units are good or if 
there's an aftermarket supplier that's better and/or cheaper. Honda 
units are $20+ each.   As to why I'm wondering........
    I was riding this weekend and after about an hour noticed that 4 
or 5 drops of oil had apparently leaked out between the cylinder 
and head on the left side (opposite cam chain) of the rear cylinder. 
I stopped, wiped it off, and couldn't find an origin of the leak. 
About an hour later I rode 40 minutes to the house, & no more oil 
had leaked. I checked the rear plug and it looked fine (not oil 
fouled). 
Has this happened to anyone else ?   Is this a major problem requiring 
immediate replacement of the head gasket ?  Is there a possibility of 
this 'leak' resulting in a mix of coolant and oil ?   I plan to check 
the crankcase oil tonight for signs of water.
    Any help is greatly appreciated. 
    Thanks in advance,      Terry Kleypas       tkleypas@tstc.edu


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From mnielsen@hprnd.rose.hp.com Tue May 23 13:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: head gaskets

> 
> Have any of you Hawk riders or racers replaced the head gaskets on 
> your Hawks ?  I'm wondering if the stock Honda units are good or if 
> there's an aftermarket supplier that's better and/or cheaper. Honda 
> units are $20+ each.   As to why I'm wondering........

THe Hawk/Honda OEM gaskets are very high quality (judging from
the ones that I've seen).  I'd stick with em, just to be safe.

> Has this happened to anyone else ?   Is this a major problem requiring 
> immediate replacement of the head gasket ?  Is there a possibility of 
> this 'leak' resulting in a mix of coolant and oil ?   I plan to check 
> the crankcase oil tonight for signs of water.

It's most likely just an oil leak.  Check the oil for water and/or
gas just in case, though.

If it persists, I would replace the gasket.  It won't be terribly
fun, but it will be worth it to keep the bike running well (keep
the oil IN the case), and to keep the bike clean.

Good luck,

Mike


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From sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil Tue May 23 13:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: head gaskets

>    I was riding this weekend and after about an hour noticed that 4 
>or 5 drops of oil had apparently leaked out between the cylinder 
>and head on the left side (opposite cam chain) of the rear cylinder. 
>I stopped, wiped it off, and couldn't find an origin of the leak. 
>About an hour later I rode 40 minutes to the house, & no more oil 
>had leaked. I checked the rear plug and it looked fine (not oil 
>fouled).

        Are you sure you are talking about a head gasket? Water, not oil,
will leak out of a blown head gasket. As will your compressed mixture, and
horsepower oozzes out also. The water will of course evaporate off the hot
engine but there will be a stain left behind.


>Has this happened to anyone else ?   Is this a major problem requiring 
>immediate replacement of the head gasket ?  Is there a possibility of 
>this 'leak' resulting in a mix of coolant and oil ?   I plan to check 
>the crankcase oil tonight for signs of water.

        Water (which will look like foam) in the oil is a sign of a blown
head gasket. Also check the water for signs of oil. Oil outside the cylinder
would likely be from the valve cover gasket. These can be re-sealed with
silicone if necessary, but it seldom is. DO NOT OVER-TIGHTEN the valve cover
bolts. There is a potential for hundreds of dollars of damage from these
innocent looking bolts.

rich



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From sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil Tue May 23 14:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Possible head gasket problem

        I don't know if this went thru the first time...

>    I was riding this weekend and after about an hour noticed that 4
>or 5 drops of oil had apparently leaked out between the cylinder
>and head on the left side (opposite cam chain) of the rear cylinder.
>I stopped, wiped it off, and couldn't find an origin of the leak.
>About an hour later I rode 40 minutes to the house, & no more oil
>had leaked. I checked the rear plug and it looked fine (not oil
>fouled).
 
        Are you sure you are talking about a head gasket? Water, not oil,
will leak out of a blown head gasket. As will your compressed mixture, and
horsepower oozzes out also. The water will of course evaporate off the hot
engine but there will be a stain left behind.
 
 
>Has this happened to anyone else ?   Is this a major problem requiring
>immediate replacement of the head gasket ?  Is there a possibility of
>this 'leak' resulting in a mix of coolant and oil ?   I plan to check
>the crankcase oil tonight for signs of water.
 
        Water (which will look like foam) in the oil is a sign of a blown
head gasket. Also check the water for signs of oil. Oil outside the cylinder
would likely be from the valve cover gasket. These can be re-sealed with
silicone if necessary, but it seldom is. DO NOT OVER-TIGHTEN the valve cover
bolts. There is a potential for hundreds of dollars of damage from these
innocent looking bolts.
 
rich
 



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From JPlott@aol.com Tue May 23 14:35 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: help

The left handed exhaust is made by Dale Walker "Hole-Shot".  There is an
advantage in that the wheel comes off much easier without the exhaust being
in the way.  I have heard that they a a bit wierd because of the angle that
they protrude out to the left.  I do not know anything about their power
development.  I do have TBR systems on both my Hawk ( the ceramic) and my
ST-1100.  They sound nice and work very well.  I do not want to sound too
much like an advertisement for TBR but Craig Elrion has always been up front,
honest and helpful.  I have not even been successful getting
Dale Walker's "Hole-Shot" to return messages.  There are other Hawk suppliers
and if you want, I will get addresses for you.

John   Red 89 Hawk   WERA #523, MSF #1733  
TBR address:   Two Brothers Racing
                       1842 Winsor Lane
                       Santa Ana, Calif.     92705

FAX:     714-505-1609


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From JPlott@aol.com Tue May 23 14:50 PDT 1995
Subject: Re: help

Kathy...You picked a very nice bike to start with.  My wife rides a CB-650
Nighthawk, and it fits her well.  When you pick up your new scoot, just be
sure that it has petroleum based oil.  NONE of the synthetic oils yet.  You
will want the rings to seat before you use the high efficiency oils.  After
about 3 to 5,000 miles begin using something like Mobil 1 synthetic (my
reasoning can be seen in the Motorcycle Consumer News report on oils).
 Follow the instruction manual for break-in. Do not stay at a steady speed.
 Go up and down the RPM range (within limits) to make sure that the rings
seat in both directions (I will not try to explain this right now)  Ride safe
and enjoy.

John    Red Hawk (I name all of my Zen machines - this one is ROHA
                            which is also its lic. plate)


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From Sassynuma9@aol.com Thu May 25 10:21 PDT 1995
Subject: NT 650 E-Mail

  I would really appreciate it if you would put me on your list.
                  Thanks.

                    Sincerely,
                         Mike Post

  sassynuma9@aol.com


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Subject: Returned Mail: Undeliverable

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I've been away a while; could some kind soul tell me the plans for
this year's DOD Joust?  Email would be good.

Frank Evan Perdicaro 			Dainippon Screen Engineering of America
Legalize guns, drugs and cash...today.	   3700 Segerstrom Ave
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From <@gaudi.CSUFresno.EDU:tprigmo@mondrian.CSUFresno.EDU> Thu May 25 13:05 PDT 1995
Subject: change of adress

Hi,
     Would you please change my adress to tdp11@lennon.csufresno.edu ?
     thanks in advance.
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